Trolls who heal

[Mortica]

I'm guessing they don't use the LIGHT ala human/dwarven/draenei from the naaru.

I know their gifts come from the Loas, but does all this cosmic goodness come from the same ultimate force, or is it different with similar results?

[Evanthe]

From the troll sticky above:


Lukou - The beautiful Loa of Health and Restoration is known to sit by the fountains of Zul and stare into the mortal realms for hours. She is both compassionate and strong, and it is from her that the Trollish race is blessed with regenerative powers. Her chosen patron on Azeroth is Matsu'Jin. Through her powers of life and healing, he is nearly invulerable to death.

So I'm assuming from this Loa.

[Mortica]

Yeah, that's the one that made the most sense. But when Lukou looks at someone and says "let them be healed" (or whatever), does she tap into the same cosmic force as when a draenei paladin looks on a fallen comrade and says "let them be healed"?

[Evanthe]

Hmmm... probably not.

Night elves get thier healing power form Elune, right? So other possibilities exist. Also: Shamans, druids don't tap the light. So to me there are multiple avenues for healing.

Speaking of priest healing- with a good chunk of their spells focusing on mind manipulation (i.e. mind control, mind vision, mind soothe, mind blast) I would tend to think that a good deal of their healing power comes from the same mind manipulation capabilities- a sort of mind over matter, power of suggestion deal. If I played a priest that's how I'd RP it.

[Skafloc]

The way I played Nouri he had a different philosophy, ( hence why he was branded a heretic by the Church of the Holy Light). Basically the universe is full of two major forces: Creation and Destruction. Both is needed for evolution and life to move along, for the Universe to perpetuate itself . Destruction, while sounding sinister, really tears down the weak, spent, superfluous parts of the universe and turns it into the building blocks that Creation used to rebuild or renew junk.

Now, different societies and different disciplines tap into Creation and Destruction using various methods. Some use avatars and intermediaries, like deities to grant them that power. Others tap into the primal essences like Light and Shadow. Others are granted access to those powers through ritual and force of will.

Really, its Gnostiscism applied to a WoW setting.

[Mortica]

thanks for the help both of you! I'm not sure where i'm going with this, but there might be some RP fun. lol. <3

[Dmitrius]

I believe the idea that Blizzard tries to perpetuate is that there is no real knowledge of it. It can be observed in the "present" that there is some force that can be drawn upon to produce "holy" magic. Now, different races have different reasonings for what seems like the same magic, and it could be anything. It could be that one group is right and the others are deluded, it could all be one divine source, or it could simply be an aspect of the magical world, not something divine or intelligent, that they learned to control and was overtime adapted to certain aspects of their own cultures. Warcraft lore goes back clearly to the War of the Ancients, and then there's the presence of the Naaru, so it seems like there's little room for various conflicting cultural folklore(all the ancient, mystical stuff is, supposedly, already right in front of you.) However, I think that the various aspects of these mythical subjects might still not imply that one group is right and another is wrong, or such ancient, powerful beings may even be confused about their own origins or purpose. Ultimately, no sure way of knowing. Even Blizzard implies that some parts of lore are considered "flavor lore"; two or more pieces of lore(like maybe two creation stories) that directly contradict each other and are not meant to both be taken as accurate descriptions of events, but the beliefs of different cultures. Look at our own world; for almost every culture, there's a different way in which the universe was created.

[Raziel]

It's a Loa. A Diefic Being.

He doesn't have to draw a source. It is a source of it's own power. That's sort of the point of being a God, y'know? You are your own limitless source of power. Pantheonic Diefic entities have localized omnipotence (Holy fuck that's a mouthful).

Their source is her. It's clerically based upon the worship of said deity to gain a channel of it's abilities through them.

[Darkblade]

It's a Loa. A Diefic Being.

He doesn't have to draw a source. It is a source of it's own power. That's sort of the point of being a God, y'know? You are your own limitless source of power. Pantheonic Diefic entities have localized omnipotence (Holy fuck that's a mouthful).

Depends on your definition of how a god works. For example, in AD&D the gods' own power is based on their followers. A god with few followers will be weaker than one with many followers. A sort of symbiosis.
Of course, as far as I know, there's been no mention of any sort of relationship with the trolls to their loa that way.

[Raziel]

Which is why it doesn't work that way.