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Tillna
11-21-2006, 01:37 AM
can they make babies?

Together?

Fallacy
11-21-2006, 02:27 AM
Is this a serious question, or not?

Seriously, most likely not. Only known pairings so far are Human/High Elf, Orc/Ogre, and Orc/Draenei.

Brakogar
11-21-2006, 05:40 AM
Well..I believe that it may be possible.

High/Blood Elves and Night Elves share a common ancestry and apart from their exterior they may share a very similar if not almost equal phisiology. Although it has not been seen yet in the lore a Human and NE having babies may be possible but difficult (the lore does state thet High Elf-Human pregancies are difficult. and hard to achieve)

When it comes to N Elves and Trolls that is also something that may be possible assuming that they do indeed share a common ancestry. However even if they do, there may be difficulties in the same way that Tigers and Lions can have Ligons but the offsprings almost always have problems such as been infertile or have other genetic shortcomings. Its never happened in the lore before but that does not make it impossible.

When it comes to Orc/Draenai offsprings that is something that is popularly accepted but not clear or properly confirmed since the only one said to have such ancestry is Garona, but much of the official lore states very clearly that she is half human. The most rescent and most detailed part of the lore that states this as a fact is the novel "the last Guardian". In this novel it strongly hints that Garona's Human/Orc ancestry may have been something in which Medivh had a hand in. This could be that Garona's "human ancestry" could have been the work of Medivh rather than an Orc and a human having a shag. This also explains the timeline discrepancies with her age and the opening of the portal since Medivh was in contact with Gul'dan long before the portal opened.

Tillna
11-21-2006, 07:26 AM
It was a serious question...

and I was making sure because of an RP line I wanted to do wtih mny char, but if that was impossable, I was going to have to make it all messed up

Verloran
11-21-2006, 08:02 AM
I think it would be possible, but that's just me.

*shrug*

Cyrass
11-21-2006, 09:59 AM
Night Elves did decend from Trolls, so there is a strong chance there could be offspring, but the offspiring possibly wouldn't be able to reproduce, not that it matters at this time.

Niethan
11-21-2006, 10:06 AM
Isn't Danlily a troll/elf hybrid?

Fallacy
11-21-2006, 12:07 PM
Garona was never said anywhere to be anything but half-orc, half-draenei, but she was described to look very human-like, which made her the great spy she was. I remember reading the book, and knowing it was wrong, but you can't expect something done by a third party to be completely right (that book wasn't very good to begin with).

There's nothing lore-wise to support it. Not a single recording of it ever happening. Compared to the time Night Elves and trolls have been around to humans and high elves, it's very strange that it never has, unless it is impossible. That being said, they hate each other so much, I doubt a child could be concieved through any way except through rape. The troll population is very limited on Kalimdor compared to the Eastern Kingdoms as such, with probably the only major groups remaining being the Sandfury and Shadowprey Village, as the Night Elves wiped the others out, and would have had very little interaction (if any at all) with the rest of the trolls across the sea.

Sulajin
11-21-2006, 12:16 PM
The other thing I always think about is why would the varying races maintain the same standards of beauty? Different cultures of the same race (human) can have such wildly divergent beliefs, through time and geography. What does that say for other species? One of which not of this world.

Why should a Troll ever accept a Night Elf as anything beautiful? Trolls visions of beauty would probably involve tusks, and not something like breast size. Actually, I think they'd probably prefer smaller. More lithe, less fatty. The tits of a warrior.

Vilmah
11-21-2006, 12:21 PM
Trolls visions of beauty would probably involve tusks, and not something like breast size. Actually, I think they'd probably prefer smaller. More lithe, less fatty. The tits of a warrior.

No wonder Vil's been getting so much more attention since she lost her baby fat.. I get it now!

Sulajin
11-21-2006, 12:23 PM
That and you went through a bad thing, so anyone who's playing a guy is going to get these little flags that say "PROTECT! PROTECT DAMN YOU!"

I ignore the flags. I play a bastard.

Vilmah
11-21-2006, 12:25 PM
Yes. Yes you DO.

But so do I, now. *EG*

Sulajin
11-21-2006, 12:30 PM
I had to deal with the protect flag during class yesterday. It was sad...

Luckily I'm not such a bastard in real life. I got me some huuuuuuugs.

Brakogar
11-21-2006, 05:59 PM
Good or not (I thought it was good but not the best warcraft book) "last Guardian" has been said by Blizzard to be officially canon unless Blizzard goes back on that.

Unfortunately what Blizzard says these days is now very subjective since technically Warcraft III is still canon but much of it has be rewritten to streamline the story in wow. They could have introduced the new races easially without changing the lore so their real intention was to streamline.

In my view Garona is half-human/half-orc and until I see something official that totally changes this it will continue to be my view of her even if the details of her actual origin are very mysterious.

Shadowspeak
11-21-2006, 09:15 PM
...So what happens if a Kaldorie and Bloodelf mate?

Brakogar
11-21-2006, 10:03 PM
They would probably get a soft purple skinned elf who is taller than a Blood elf but shorter the a Night elf.

Zasein
11-22-2006, 11:53 AM
Naw, they'd have hot pink skin and blue hair.

Raziel
11-22-2006, 06:38 PM
...So what happens if a Kaldorie and Bloodelf mate?

One or the other.

Sulajin
12-12-2006, 11:22 AM
Speaking of Troll and Elf. Somehow I only just noticed the fact that assorted "Ancients" have huge ass troll tusks, and longer pointier faces than the Elves. A link?