Player MBTI!

[Libelle]

I posted a similar thread in relation to our characters and suddenly remembered how much I love personality typing and type-watching. What's your type?

Here (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp) is a link to an interesting Myers-Briggs personality test that's formatted a little different from ones I've seen in the past. There's a link to your profile at the end of the test.

I'm an INTP (Architect).


Architects need not be thought of as only interested in drawing blueprints for buildings or roads or bridges. They are the master designers of all kinds of theoretical systems, including school curricula, corporate strategies, and new technologies. For Architects, the world exists primarily to be analyzed, understood, explained - and re-designed. External reality in itself is unimportant, little more than raw material to be organized into structural models. What is important for Architects is that they grasp fundamental principles and natural laws, and that their designs are elegant, that is, efficient and coherent.

Architects are rare - maybe one percent of the population - and show the greatest precision in thought and speech of all the types. They tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies instantaneously, and can detect contradictions no matter when or where they were made. It is difficult for an Architect to listen to nonsense, even in a casual conversation, without pointing out the speaker's error. And in any serious discussion or debate Architects are devastating, their skill in framing arguments giving them an enormous advantage. Architects regard all discussions as a search for understanding, and believe their function is to eliminate inconsistencies, which can make communication with them an uncomfortable experience for many.

Ruthless pragmatists about ideas, and insatiably curious, Architects are driven to find the most efficient means to their ends, and they will learn in any manner and degree they can. They will listen to amateurs if their ideas are useful, and will ignore the experts if theirs are not. Authority derived from office, credential, or celebrity does not impress them. Architects are interested only in what make sense, and thus only statements that are consistent and coherent carry any weight with them.

Architects often seem difficult to know. They are inclined to be shy except with close friends, and their reserve is difficult to penetrate. Able to concentrate better than any other type, they prefer to work quietly at their computers or drafting tables, and often alone. Architects also become obsessed with analysis, and this can seem to shut others out. Once caught up in a thought process, Architects close off and persevere until they comprehend the issue in all its complexity. Architects prize intelligence, and with their grand desire to grasp the structure of the universe, they can seem arrogant and may show impatience with others who have less ability, or who are less driven.

And that's why I'm such a hardass about consistency in rp. ._.

[Szordrin]

I took the Briggs personality test in my management class last semester. I think I was ENFP or something like that.

[Villayna]

I am half INFP/half INTP

combine the worst traits in both and that's pretty much me ;)

edit: I haven't taken it in a while, but from what I remember it comes out something like:

I:E 70:30
N:S 90:10
F:T 50:50
P:J 60:40

[Szordrin]

Nioce!

[Chikt]

I'm an ENFJ. I'm like a human support class!

Apparently Barack Obama is an ENFJ.

[Pyrisath]

Thank you Libelle, for half-doing what I was almost insane enough to do: Start posting that test on every site I go to.

True-blooded INTJ here. You may start your worship now.

I: 78%
In: 62%
T: 75%
J: 22%

Gandalf the Grey, Ceaser, six american presidents:Chester A. Arthur, Calvin Coolidge, Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy, James K. Polk, Woodrow Wilson were all INTJ's. Obama's wife is an INTJ.


INTJs are natural leaders, although they usually choose to remain in the background until they see a real need to take over the lead. When they are in leadership roles, they are quite effective, because they are able to objectively see the reality of a situation, and are adaptable enough to change things which aren't working well. They are the supreme strategists - always scanning available ideas and concepts and weighing them against their current strategy, to plan for every conceivable contingency.

Other people may have a difficult time understanding an INTJ. They may see them as aloof and reserved. Indeed, the INTJ is not overly demonstrative of their affections, and is likely to not give as much praise or positive support as others may need or desire. That doesn't mean that he or she doesn't truly have affection or regard for others, they simply do not typically feel the need to express it. Others may falsely perceive the INTJ as being rigid and set in their ways. Nothing could be further from the truth, because the INTJ is committed to always finding the objective best strategy to implement their ideas. The INTJ is usually quite open to hearing an alternative way of doing something.


According to Jung in his seminal work, Introverted Intuitives perceive the background processes of consciousness in the same way as Extraverted Sensors perceive concrete objects. This is what gives INTJs and INFJs our perspicacity. Whenever we actually are focused on something external such as another person, we can intuit their manners of thought and hence do something like shock the hell out of them with a deep insight into their character.

[Chikt]

Thank you Libelle, for doing what I was almost insane enough to do: Start posting that test on every site I go to.

True-blooded INTJ here. You may start your worship now. Obama's wife is an INTJ. (Linking shtuffz and quoting once I am done with the other MBTI type.

Marry me and we'll run for Presidency in the next election.

[Medduren]

INFP, too:


INFPs are highly intuitive about people. They rely heavily on their intuitions to guide them, and use their discoveries to constantly search for value in life. They are on a continuous mission to find the truth and meaning underlying things. Every encounter and every piece of knowledge gained gets sifted through the INFP's value system, and is evaluated to see if it has any potential to help the INFP define or refine their own path in life.


Edit:

Apparently, we get a 'dark side' bonus:


...frequently losing things, prone to sadness, prone to dreaming about a rescuer, disorderly, observer, easily distracted, does not like crowds, can act without thinking, private, can feel uncomfortable around others, familiar with the darkside, hermit, more likely to support marijuana legalization, can sabotage self, likes the rain...

[Svetlaena]

Ka-wow, because I'm an INTJ myself. >.>

[Libelle]

I have a feeling this site will be brimming with the sorts of types which are supposed to comprise 2% or less of the population.

[Villayna]

I wonder if we have any S's, because that would be odd, even though they make up such a large portion of society.

[Yichimet]

I'm ISFP every time I take the test, but I'll edit again after I do it just to report results.

Yep, 44/38/62/44.

[Karkarov]

INTJ myself. I find it odd you would brag about it though. For the record I was 75 62 62 56

Edit: As irony would have it I clicked the INTJ link for famous personalities just out of curiousity and it of course was a broken link and instead went to the occupation suggestion page.

[Evanthe]

I'm sorta in between most types. Depending on the day I take the test I'm either an ETNJ (today), INTJ, INTP, ENTP, INFP, ENFP.

11/62/12/1

[Szordrin]

Yeah! Evanthe sometimes is with me and sometimes not. I'm not the only ENFP :3!

[Raziel]

http://www.hamovhotov.com/cartoons/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dexters-laboratory-star-check-unconventional.jpg
NRFB!?

[Lysimachus]

I haven't taken this test for years. My result is different now, though, than it was last time!

ENFP!

[Szordrin]

Ah. I guess I go back and forth between ENFP and ENFJ... cause I just got ENFJ. Not too much of a change, yanno? : )

[Vardyag'n]

INJT.

[Qabian]

Every time I take it, I get something different. Today, I got ISFJ, Guardian type, ha! The only thing that ever stays the same is the I, and all the rest are always tiny fractions into whatever the type is. The rest means nothing to me, really. Introvert. That's it. That's all.

Edit: Er, "Protector." Guardian's the category.

[Pyrisath]

Every time I take it, I get something different. Today, I got ISFJ, Guardian type, ha! The only thing that ever stays the same is the I, and all the rest are always tiny fractions into whatever the type is. The rest means nothing to me, really. Introvert. That's it. That's all.

Introvert means a lot, but so do the other stuff. Just not really as much, especially if you are balanced in it. So yeah, all you would probably need to know is "I'm introverted, f*** off.". The rest is just interesting psychological stuffs ;P.

[Ignas]

I've taken this test several times in the past and I always ended up either ISTJ or INTJ.

[The_Golden_Wolf]

I transcend personality tests.

[Pyrisath]

I transcend personality tests.

Pfft. I am guessing INTJ, just off that.


Heh, Ignas. Your N and S switch, for me it is usually P and J. Depends on how judicious over observations I am being.

[Ignas]

Heh, Ignas. Your N and S switch, for me it is usually P and J. Depends on how judicious over observations I am being.

I guess for me it would depend on how I'm feeling at the time, if I'm reading this thing right.

[Thoraggar]

This might be a more detailed page, doesn't have famous people though.

http://www.personalitypage.com/portraits.html

take the test elsewhere and look here.

Also, I am a ENTJ with some ESTJ cross over.

[Aphraelle]

Hmm. Aphraelle isn't the same as me. I am -


INFP 56/62/62/78
moderately expressed introvert
distinctively expressed intuitive personality
distinctively expressed feeling personality
very expressed perceiving personality
But she is -


INTJ 11/50/38/89
slightly expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed thinking personality
very expressed judging personality
Interesting.

[Libelle]

Pfft. I am guessing INTJ, just off that.


I'm starting to think you're an INTJ supremacist.

I need to start touting the virtues of INTPs. WHERE ARE MY INTP BRETHREN??

[Athin]

I'm ISFP every time I take the test, but I'll edit again after I do it just to report results.

Yep, 44/38/62/44.

ISFP's in the house!

[Tylorvias]

INTJ - The "Strategist" The "Mastermind" The "Scientist" INTJs are introspective, analytical, determined persons with natural leadership ability. Being reserved, they prefer to stay in the background while leading. Strategic, knowledgable and adaptable, INTJs are talented in bringing ideas from conception to reality. They expect perfection from themselves as well as others and are comfortable with the leadership of another so long as they are competent. INTJs can also be described as decisive, open-minded, self-confident, attentive, theoretical and pragmatic.

INT and borderline J/P I've taken the test a few times and it's almost always different, but I'm going to lean towards J as I get that slightly more often

[Szordrin]

So many introverts O_O

[Kovan]

Fun test. Huzzah for the introverts!

INFJ
67 50 38 56



Counselors are scarce, little more than one percent of the population, and can be hard to get to know, since they tend not to share their innermost thoughts or their powerful emotional reactions except with their loved ones. They are highly private people, with an unusually rich, complicated inner life. Friends or colleagues who have known them for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that Counselors are flighty or scattered; they value their integrity a great deal, but they have mysterious, intricately woven personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

[Karkarov]

INTJ's are supremacists. Do you have any idea what it is like sitting at work and having your boss come over and ask you to fix some new fax machine we just got in and they cant figure it out with the manual and you walk over and get it working in under 2 minutes without it? Sometimes it is tough to respect a person when they cant do something that is so easy for you that you could do it in your sleep.

[Libelle]

You know, my experiences tell me that INTJs and INTPs are a lot alike.

We're just more fun.

[Haqin]

INTJ
Introverted 89
Intuitive 38
Thinking 44
Judging 1

god damn it .~.

[Lythas]

... I feel kind of out of the loop:

ESFJ
Extraverted, Sensing, Feeling, Judging
67/12/38/11


Providers take it upon themselves to insure the health and welfare of those in their care, but they are also the most sociable of all the Guardians, and thus are the great nurturers of social institutions such as schools, churches, social clubs, and civic groups. Providers are very likely more than ten percent of the population, and this is fortunate for the rest of us, because friendly social service is a key to their nature. Wherever they go, Providers happily give their time and energy to make sure that the needs of others are met, and that social functions are a success.

Highly cooperative themselves, Providers are skilled in maintaining teamwork among their helpers, and are also tireless in their attention to the details of furnishing goods and services. They make excellent chairpersons in charge of dances, banquets, class reunions, charity fund-raisers, and the like. They are without peer as masters of ceremonies, able to speak publicly with ease and confidence. And they are outstanding hosts or hostesses, knowing everyone by name, and seemingly aware of what everyone's been doing. Providers love to entertain, and are always concerned about the needs of their guests, wanting to make sure that all are involved and provided for.

Friendly, outgoing, neighborly - in a word, Providers are gregarious, so much so that they can become restless when isolated from people. They love to talk with others, and will often strike up a conversation with strangers and chat pleasantly about any topic that comes to mind. Friendships matter a great deal to Providers, and their conversations with friends often touch on good times from years past. Family traditions are also sacred to them, and they carefully observe birthdays and anniversaries. In addition, Providers show a delightful fascination with news of their friends and neighbors. If we wish to know what's been going on in the local community, school, or church, they're happy to fill us in on all the details.

Providers are extremely sensitive to the feelings of others, which makes them perhaps the most sympathetic of all the types, but which also leaves them somewhat self-conscious, that is, highly sensitive to what others think of them. Loving and affectionate themselves, they need to be loved in return. In fact, Providers can be crushed by personal criticism, and are happiest when given ample appreciation both for themselves personally and for the tireless service they give to others.

tl;dr version- I'm a sap.

[Pyrisath]

So many introverts O_O

There is actual proof that shows that introverts prefer internet communication, because it gives them the ability to speak there mind with no time constraints of the topic passing by while they formulate their grand response. The topic is there. There might be more said at the time they finish typing, but they are not pressured by others to hurry up and speak. Which, is why introverts are not talkative in real life. One, it is exhausting to speak for too long, and two, they take a while to create smart responses, instead of blurting what comes to mind.(No offense.)


And I have every right to be a supremacist. Who could rule the world better than a mastermind? Bwahahahaha! No... I'm just excited. Too much chocalate, I ate. Too much. Stomach cramps. Pains. Owwwww...

[Tiraline]

I came out ENFJ, which proves that I am not confusing myself with Tiraline the Mage.


Even more than the other Idealists, Teachers have a natural talent for leading students or trainees toward learning, or as Idealists like to think of it, they are capable of calling forth each learner's potentials. Teachers (around two percent of the population) are able - effortlessly, it seems, and almost endlessly-to dream up fascinating learning activities for their students to engage in. In some Teachers, this ability to fire the imagination can amount to a kind of genius which other types find hard to emulate. But perhaps their greatest strength lies in their belief in their students. Teachers look for the best in their students, and communicate clearly that each one has untold potential, and this confidence can inspire their students to grow and develop more than they ever thought possible.

In whatever field they choose, Teachers consider people their highest priority, and they instinctively communicate personal concern and a willingness to become involved. Warmly outgoing, and perhaps the most expressive of all the types, Teachers are remarkably good with language, especially when communicating in speech, face to face. And they do not hesitate to speak out and let their feelings be known. Bubbling with enthusiasm, Teachers will voice their passions with dramatic flourish, and can, with practice, become charismatic public speakers. This verbal ability gives Teachers a good deal of influence in groups, and they are often asked to take a leadership role.

Teachers like things settled and organized, and will schedule their work hours and social engagements well ahead of time-and they are absolutely trustworthy in honoring these commitments. Valuing as they do interpersonal cooperation and harmonious relations, Teachers are extraordinarily tolerant of others, are easy to get along with, and are usually popular wherever they are.

Teachers are highly sensitive to others, which is to say their intuition tends to be well developed. Certainly their insight into themselves and others is unparalleled. Without a doubt, they know what is going on inside themselves, and they can read other people with uncanny accuracy. Teachers also identify with others quite easily, and will actually find themselves picking up the characteristics, emotions, and beliefs of those around them. Because they slip almost unconsciously into other people's skin in this way, Teachers feel closely connected with those around them, and thus show a sincere interest in the joys and problems of their employees, colleagues, students, clients, and loved ones.

...Although "extraordinarily tolerant of others"...I guess it depends on your definition of tolerance.

[Tylorvias]

INTP's can be more fun all they want, we get the flashy ego inflating titles.

[Aphraelle]

Found my description for INFP:

Healers present a calm and serene face to the world, and can seem shy, even distant around others. But inside they're anything but serene, having a capacity for personal caring rarely found in the other types. Healers care deeply about the inner life of a few special persons, or about a favorite cause in the world at large. And their great passion is to heal the conflicts that trouble individuals, or that divide groups, and thus to bring wholeness, or health, to themselves, their loved ones, and their community.

Healers have a profound sense of idealism that comes from a strong personal sense of right and wrong. They conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place, full of wondrous possibilities and potential goods. In fact, to understand Healers, we must understand that their deep commitment to the positive and the good is almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. Set off from the rest of humanity by their privacy and scarcity (around one percent of the population), Healers can feel even more isolated in the purity of their idealism.

Also, Healers might well feel a sense of separation because of their often misunderstood childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood-they are the prince or princess of fairy tales-an attitude which, sadly, is frowned upon, or even punished, by many parents. With parents who want them to get their head out of the clouds, Healers begin to believe they are bad to be so fanciful, so dreamy, and can come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. In truth, they are quite OK just as they are, only different from most others-swans reared in a family of ducks.

At work, Healers are adaptable, welcome new ideas and new information, are patient with complicated situations, but impatient with routine details. Healers are keenly aware of people and their feelings, and relate well with most others. Because of their deep-seated reserve, however, they can work quite happily alone. When making decisions, Healers follow their heart not their head, which means they can make errors of fact, but seldom of feeling. They have a natural interest in scholarly activities and demonstrate, like the other Idealists, a remarkable facility with language. They have a gift for interpreting stories, as well as for creating them, and thus often write in lyric, poetic fashion. Frequently they hear a call to go forth into the world and help others, a call they seem ready to answer, even if they must sacrifice their own comfort.

Princess Diana, Richard Gere, Audrey Hephurn, Albert Schweiter, George Orwell, Karen Armstrong, Aldous Huxley, Mia Farrow, and Isabel Meyers are examples of a Healer Idealists.

[Szordrin]

Tir and I are the same? D: *head explody*

[The_Golden_Wolf]

Blah blah blah... lots of words... blah.

[Roth'rili]

ENFP

E - 11%
N - 25%
F - 38%
P - 78% >.>


Like the other Idealists, Champions are rather rare, say two or three percent of the population, but even more than the others they consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life. Champions have a wide range and variety of emotions, and a great passion for novelty. They see life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil, and they want to experience all the meaningful events and fascinating people in the world. The most outgoing of the Idealists, Champions often can't wait to tell others of their extraordinary experiences. Champions can be tireless in talking with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out. And usually this is not simple storytelling; Champions often speak (or write) in the hope of revealing some truth about human experience, or of motivating others with their powerful convictions. Their strong drive to speak out on issues and events, along with their boundless enthusiasm and natural talent with language, makes them the most vivacious and inspiring of all the types.

Fiercely individualistic, Champions strive toward a kind of personal authenticity, and this intention always to be themselves is usually quite attractive to others. At the same time, Champions have outstanding intuitive powers and can tell what is going on inside of others, reading hidden emotions and giving special significance to words or actions. In fact, Champions are constantly scanning the social environment, and no intriguing character or silent motive is likely to escape their attention. Far more than the other Idealists, Champions are keen and probing observers of the people around them, and are capable of intense concentration on another individual. Their attention is rarely passive or casual. On the contrary, Champions tend to be extra sensitive and alert, always ready for emergencies, always on the lookout for what's possible.

Champions are good with people and usually have a wide range of personal relationships. They are warm and full of energy with their friends. They are likable and at ease with colleagues, and handle their employees or students with great skill. They are good in public and on the telephone, and are so spontaneous and dramatic that others love to be in their company. Champions are positive, exuberant people, and often their confidence in the goodness of life and of human nature makes good things happen.

[Leeleei]

ISFP's in the house!
Wooot!

Not surprisingly, I am an ISFP.

I - 11%
S - 62%
F - 62%
P - 61%


Artisan™ Portrait of the Composer (ISFP)
More than the other Artisans, Composers are in tune with their senses, and so have a sure grasp of what belongs, and what doesn't belong, in all kinds of works of art. While the other Artisans are skilled with people, tools, and entertainment, Composers have an exceptional ability-seemingly inborn-to work with subtle differences in color, tone, texture, aroma, and flavor.

Although Composers often put long, lonely hours into their artistry, they are just as impulsive as the other Artisans. They do not wait to consider their moves; rather, they act in the here and now, with little or no planning or preparation. Composers are seized by the act of artistic composition, as if caught up in a whirlwind. The act is their master, not the reverse. Composers paint or sculpt, they dance or skate, they write melodies or make recipes-or whatever-simply because they must. They climb the mountain because it is there.

This ability to lose themselves in action accounts for the spectacular individual accomplishments of some Composers, and yet on their social side they show a kindness unmatched by all the other types. Composers are especially sensitive to the pain and suffering of others, and they sympathize freely with the sufferer. Some have a remarkable way with young children, almost as if there were a natural bond of sympathy and trust between them. A similar bond may be seen between some Composers and animals, even wild animals. Many Composers have an instinctive longing for the wilds, and nature seems to welcome them.

Composers are just as plentiful as the other Artisans, say nine or ten per cent of the population, but in general they are very difficult to observe and thus greatly misunderstood. Very likely the difficulty comes from their tendency not to express themselves verbally, but through their works of art. Composers are usually not interested in developing ability in public speaking, or even in the art of conversation; they prefer to feel the pulse of life by touch, in the muscles, in the eyes, in the ears, on the tongue. Make no mistake, Composers are just as interested as other types in sharing their view of the world, and if they find a medium of non-verbal communication-some art form-then they will express their character quite eloquently. If not, they simply remain unknown, their quietness leaving their character all but invisible.

Bob Dylan, Jackie Kennedy Onassis, Cher, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Mel Brooks, Steven Spielberg, and Neil Simon are examples of a Composer Artisans.


And in love.

"Girls just wanna have fun" is a great motto for Artisan women. They treat romance as they do the rest of their lives - an exciting titillating game. Flirting is a high art form for them as they encourage and discourage the opposite sex. When being wooed, they enjoy novelty, grand gestures, and spontaneity. They dislike the boring and predictable and fear getting in a rut. Artisan women tend to be sensual and enjoy giving and receiving physical affection.


Yep. It is what it is.

[Sinthe]

I took this test in a class sometime before spring break, and I ended up as ENFP. I've also taken it and seen INFP. I think whether I'm come up as an introvert or extrovert really depends on my mood at the time. This time I got another ENFP.

[Pyrisath]

Check your percentages if they give them to you next time, Sinthe. If introversion and extroversion are in a close tie, it may just be ambiversion. Lucky you, you can be book loving and people loving, heh.

I believe the way to find out what you really are is to read the traits of both, and figure which one you would like to live as. If, of course, you are needing a most definite answer.

[Carrowyn]

... I feel kind of out of the loop:

ESFJ
Extraverted, Sensing, Feeling, Judging
67/12/38/11



tl;dr version- I'm a sap.

*Gasps* Lythas! Don't feel out of the loop! I, too, am an ESFJ!

Go go Guardian Providers! (http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=2&c=provider)

[Irontoe]

The one word that best describes Inspectors is superdependable. Whether at home or at work, Inspectors are extraordinarily persevering and dutiful, particularly when it comes to keeping an eye on the people and products they are responsible for. In their quiet way, Inspectors see to it that rules are followed, laws are respected, and standards are upheld.

Inspectors (as much as ten percent of the general population) are the true guardians of institutions. They are patient with their work and with the procedures within an institution, although not always with the unauthorized behavior of some people in that institution. Responsible to the core, Inspectors like it when people know their duties, follow the guidelines, and operate within the rules. For their part, Inspectors will see to it that goods are examined and schedules are kept, that resources will be up to standards and delivered when and where they are supposed to be. And they would prefer that everyone be this dependable. Inspectors can be hard-nosed about the need for following the rules in the workplace, and do not hesitate to report irregularities to the proper authorities. Because of this they are often misjudged as being hard-hearted, or as having ice in their veins, for people fail to see their good intentions and their vulnerability to criticism. Also, because Inspectors usually make their inspections without much flourish or fanfare, the dedication they bring to their work can go unnoticed and unappreciated.

While not as talkative as Supervisor Guardians [ESTJs], Inspectors are still highly sociable, and are likely to be involved in community service organizations, such as Sunday School, Little League, or Boy and Girl Scouting, that transmit traditional values to the young. Like all Guardians, Inspectors hold dear their family social ceremonies-weddings, birthdays, and anniversaries - although they tend to be shy if the occasion becomes too large or too public. Generally speaking, Inspectors are not comfortable with anything that gets too fancy. Their words tend to be plain and down-to-earth, not showy or high-flown; their clothes are often simple and conservative rather than of the latest fashion; and their home and work environments are usually neat, orderly, and traditional, rather than trendy or ostentatious. As for personal property, they usually choose standard items over models loaded with features, and they often try to find classics and antiques - Inspectors prefer the old-fashioned to the newfangled every time.

Queen Elizabeth II, Harry S. Truman, Warren Buffet, Queen Victoria, James K. Polk, and J.D. Rockefeller are examples of Inspector Guardians.

I've gotten the same result on every one of these tests I've taken for my various workplaces, but this description isn't as accurate as the others I've gotten.


You are:

* very expressed introvert
* distinctively expressed sensing personality
* very expressed thinking personality
* very expressed judging personality

[Izrail]

The following was originally posted 9/18/2008 on my blog. This time around the test results were different. For comparison:

Your Type is: INTJ
Introverted: 89 (same)
Intuitive: 62 (higher)
Thinking: 25 (same)
Judging: 33 (same)

Here is the unedited blog post.
_____________

We all know what the MBTI is, or the Jungian types if you prefer. I usually ignore the subject when it comes up. People with an interest in psychology either foam at the mouth and decry the personality types as shit, or else preach their preferred method of personality typing, with the sort of martyred tone that suggests no one really "gets them". As for the fad itself, people will take whatever internet test comes their way without researching the principles behind the idea. It's like astrology. There's a big system to learn if you really want to understand it, but people are happy to just know the most visible thing, read their horoscope (or the blurb at the end of their online test), decide if it "fits" or not, and either feel validated because an impersonal website described their personality or because it didn't and therefore they're special and impossible to label.

Remember the D&D test I posted, and then raged about when people didn't read the thread or click the fucking links to learn about what... Uh, here (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=8418). Same principle.

So I come across another MBTI thread and decide, what the hell, this time I'll take it. Haven't tried one in years. I predicted INFP or INFJ, because no one would confuse me for an extrovert, I live and breathe ideas and concepts, and I consider myself sort of sensitive and emo even though it hurts to admit it. Just trying to be honest. But the tests decided I wasn't sensitive enough.

This test (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp) says:

Your Type is INTJ. (Introverted: 89, Intuitive: 50, Thinking: 25, Judging: 33) You are:

* very expressed introvert
* moderately expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed thinking personality
* moderately expressed judging personality

It then directs me to other sites. Posting snippets of the descriptions was time-consuming but the character limit on blog posts means I must cut them out. Keirsey calls this type the Mastermind (http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=5&c=mastermind), which is flattering but not realistic in regards to my actual behavior. The site also directs me to Type Logic's description (http://typelogic.com/intj.html), which is also very long.


Test #2 (http://www.eggheadcafe.com/articles/mb/default.asp) says:
E=1 Extraversion
I=10 Introversion
S= Sensing
N=20 iNtuition
T=16 Thinking
F=3 Feeling
J=8 Judging
P=11 Perceiving
You are an INTP

That's the beauty of internet questionnaires. INTP now. I like the balance of E/I and S/N... or lack thereof.


INTP - Physicists, chemists, biologists, photographers, strategic planners, mathematicians, university professors, computer programmers, computer animators, technical writers, engineers, lawyers, forensic researchers, writers, artists, psychologists, social scientists, systems analysts, researchers, surveyors. Highly analytical, they can discover connections between two seemingly unrelated things, and work best when allowed to use their imagination and critical thinking.

The fact that the list of occupations is longer than the description bugs me. Fortunately they provide a "detail" (http://www.eggheadcafe.com/articles/mb/INTPext.asp) near the top of the results page.

Each test's preferred set of descriptions seems to take aspects of my personality and blow it all out of proportion. Each page is also long and redundant and I'm breaking my rules by not giving each one a thorough reading. I'll look back later, it's 7:30 in the morning, and one of them linked to Wikipedia, which is easier to browse anyway.

So I checked out the Wikipedia section. Read the INTJ description (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTJ), then the INTP description (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTP), as well as INFJ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INfJ) and INFP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INFP), and it was at INFP that my confusion over thinking/feeling cleared up a bit:


Devoted to those in their inner circle, INFPs guard the emotional well-being of others, consoling those in distress. Guided by their desire for harmony, INFPs prefer to be flexible unless their ethics are violated. Then, they become passionate advocates for their beliefs. They are often able to sway the opinions of others through tact, diplomacy, and an ability to see varying sides of an issue.

That "F" thing isn't about being emotional, it's about dealing with people. Is that what they're getting it? Why didn't I just start with the goddamn wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator) on the theory behind the labels?


Thinking and Feeling are the decision-making (Judging) functions. The Thinking and Feeling functions are both used to make rational decisions, based on the data received from their information-gathering functions (Sensing or iNtuition). Those who prefer Feeling tend to come to decisions by associating or empathizing with the situation, looking at it 'from the inside' and weighing the situation to achieve, on balance, the greatest harmony, consensus and fit, considering the needs of the people involved. Those who prefer Thinking tend to decide things from a more detached standpoint, measuring the decision by what seems reasonable, logical, causal, consistent and matching a given set of rules.

Aha. Nothing about sensitivity. Everything about decision-making. It goes on:


As noted already, people with a Thinking preference do not necessarily, in the everyday sense, 'think better' than their Feeling counterparts; the opposite preference is considered an equally rational way of coming to decisions (and, in any case, the MBTI assessment is a measure of preference, not ability). Similarly, those with a Feeling preference do not necessarily have 'better' emotional reactions than their Thinking counterparts.

Emphasis mine. So I can accept that I make decisions based on Thinking but deep down I'm not a wholly logical thinker, suffer from tempestuous emotional storms, and suck at complex math, all of which made me assume I'd get dropped into the F box. Okay. But what about that J/P thing?

When it comes down to it, I don't know whether I prefer to keep matters open-ended or set in stone. I like having a plan, I prefer having a plan, but I also prefer to be able to change the plan instantly. That's something I find difficult to explain to people: Yes, I want a plan, but before you whine about it let me know how it could be better and keep in mind we may want to change course mid-stream. Wikipedia doesn't give me a good enough idea on where to draw the line, so it's off the the internet at large.

Myers-Briggs.org (http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/judging-or-perceiving.asp) agrees with Rachel from Batman Begins: "it's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you." In that case, I tentatively diagnose myself with a bad case of Judging, because however much I protest that I welcome changes to the plan, the fact that I come up with a plan without being asked says something.

So, INTJ. This label feels funny, I've never worn it before. This puts my functions (http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/16types.html) as follows:

Dominant: Introverted Intuition (http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/introvertedintuiting.html) - "We could find ourselves laying out how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs."
Auxilliary: Extraverted Thinking (http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/extravertedthinking.html) - Aka "The Grammar Nazi."
Tertiary: Introverted Feeling (http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/introvertedfeeling.html) - "The Emo Kid."
Inferior: Extraverted Sensing (http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/extravertedsensing.html) - Apparently the inferior function doesn't come into play much until mid-life, which I won't be near until I'm almost twice as old as I am now. (You now feel old.)

I like that Cognitive Processes site. Here's their paragraph on the INTJ type (http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/intj.html), which I like better than the others because it explains why Twisting Nether is driving me up a fucking wall:


INTJ - Conceptualizer Director
Theme is strategizing, envisioning, and masterminding. Talents lie in defining goals, creating detailed plans, and outlining contingencies. Devise strategy, give structure, establish complex plans to reach distant goals dictated by a strong vision of what is needed in the long run. Thrive on putting theories to work and are open to any and all ideas that can be integrated into the complex systems they seek to understand. Drive themselves hard to master what is needed to make progress toward goals.

This was a fun exercise. What say you, TNG?
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End blog post. Hope it was informative.

[Libelle]

Wow, that was a really good post. I think it's really important to note that the purpose of the MBTI is to gauge a person's preferences, as you mentioned.

[Agnarr]

ISJT
# moderately expressed introvert
# moderately expressed sensing personality
# moderately expressed thinking personality
# slightly expressed judging personality

Though one of the first things listed in the description was punctuality, which I tend to fail on regularly.

Of course, I was half asleep taking this, so I might have no answered some right. ISJT sounds right though.

[Karkarov]

Some of them you cant answer "right" you have to pick a lesser of too evils. But thats part of the plan to begin with.