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Niethan
12-26-2008, 12:50 PM
At the time of this writing, I have a GM ticket in the system asking about the possibility of creating an ingame memorial for the dearly departed. I'm sure it's not something they do often, but....

I know I'm not the only person who wants Skafloc to be remembered, so I put forth this idea: let's hit the realm forums, the GM petitions, the emails. There's an angel in the Barrens and a hyper dog in Mulgore. Let's ask for there to be something for the Baron as well.

RavenReverend
12-26-2008, 12:52 PM
I agree >.>

Barke
12-26-2008, 12:54 PM
I will add my petition for this.

Evanthe
12-26-2008, 12:57 PM
I know my hubby emailed Blizzard today about the same.

Swerto
12-26-2008, 01:07 PM
I will sign any petition for this. Even though I didn't know him and only talked to him a few times Skaf was a great guy.

Kethryvaris
12-26-2008, 01:10 PM
Count me in for signing.

Amoola
12-26-2008, 01:13 PM
I agree with this, let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Nadea
12-26-2008, 01:21 PM
I agree with this, let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Same here. Please.

Do we want to all have a specifically worded email/petition, so that the same message is given to Blizzard several times? Or do we all want to write these on our own?

I'm really not sure what it takes to get Blizzard to listen to a request like this- but I have conifdence in this community.

Niethan
12-26-2008, 01:31 PM
I was thinking at least one of us should start on the Realm Forum for TN, and maybe another on Suggestions forum. Drafted emails sound like a good idea, too-- what would be the best place to send it en masse?

Imara
12-26-2008, 01:31 PM
I think this is a great idea. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help bombard Blizzard. :)

Selash
12-26-2008, 01:31 PM
I'd definitely be down for this. Just point me in the direction of any petition or ticket I need to sign and I'll do it.

Dorishar
12-26-2008, 02:04 PM
I'll do anything I can do help on this, just let me know

EnheilRas
12-26-2008, 02:08 PM
Y'know, when *I* was saying something about this, I got modded.

NotMaithanet
12-26-2008, 02:14 PM
Y'know, when *I* was saying something about this, I got modded.

Probably because they didnt want something negative on the forums before it was too late. I certainly don't think it was because the idea you had was bad.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 02:32 PM
Below is the letter I submitted to Blizzard this morning. I also emailed it to their community site.
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To whom it may concern,

I want to start this letter with a thank you. You may not realize it, but you have created something very special on the Twisting Nether server. We have evolved from being an online game, to being an online community, the Twisting Nether Gazette (wow-tng.org). So what, big deal, it's a forum…right? Wrong. Here you will find a close knit community of friends. A community that has extended beyond WoW and into the real world. We meet regularly, often traveling across the country to visit with each other. Our last "field trip" was to Atlanta, GA, with members flying in from as far away as Seattle, WA to attend. Some of us have even found true love in our fellow players. Some of us are even starting families together. All thanks to you. Thank you.

That being said, I want to write you today about a very special customer of yours, Rick Moore. Rick has been a WoW player and an important member of the Twisting Nether server community for years now. He is also a very familiar face on the Twisting Nether Gazette. He has played several characters, on both Horde and Alliance, but always on Twisting Nether. Rick is one of those all too rare players in WoW. He is kind to everyone, helpful, level headed, and never has a negative thing to say about anyone or anything. The eternal optimist. He is the only person I have ever met, both in WoW and out in the world, who is beloved by anyone who ever met him. You should hope to have more players like him, as everything he became involved in is better for it.

Sadly, Rick died from cancer this Christmas morning. Everyone involved with the Twisting Nether Gazette and his many friends on the Twisting Nether server mourn his loss greatly. Our broken hearts go out to his wife, two young children, and extended family. He was positive and upbeat to the end, and although his body was dying, his sense of humor and kind heart were unkillable. Our only consolation is that the cancer took him quickly (he was diagnosed in October) and he did not suffer long.

I cannot express to you the great sadness so many of us on Twisting Nether now feel. Nor can I share with you just how much Rick will be missed. We have lost a good friend, you have lost a loyal customer and a great asset to your game.

What I would like to do is ask a large favor.

Rick was more commonly known as Skafloc, a Blood Elf Hunter. He was a very active role player and the character of Skafloc has become a bit of a celebrity amongst role players on the server. Twisting Nether now seems a bit colder and emptier with Skafloc missing from it. Please don't let that happen. I would ask that you add a small memorial to Skaf in the game. Nothing big or grand. If possible just on the Twisting Nether server. Just something to recognize all the warmth he brought to the hearts of his fellow players. Something to remember him by, as a player and a person.

I have taken the liberty of proposing the addition, although anything you can do would be so very appreciated-

Just outside of Silvermoon, there is a quest area, some ship docks near Fairbreeze Village over run with Wretched. There is a Blood Elf ship docked there. Please place Skafloc's ghost on that ship, staring bravely out to sea. He would only be visible to dead characters in ghost form who know where to look.

Being a Blood Elf, the area around Silvermoon is the most appropriate place for Skafloc, as he spent large amounts of time there, socializing and weaving stories together with his many friends. Rick was a Navy man, so the docks and the boat reflect that. He worked in Intelligence for the Navy, and was also very humble, so being a bit of an "easter-egg" that's hard to find fits him perfectly. Finally, Skafloc staring bravely out to see symbolizes the great courage Rick showed when facing his own inevitable journey into the great unknown. Again, if possible, this would only need to be added to Twisting Nether, as we were privileged to be Rick's home in WoW.

I know this is a lot to ask. So much so that I'm not even sure who to forward this request to and rely on the goodwill of the reader to pass this letter on to the appropriate parties. I also realize that there may be a great amount of work involved in adding this small feature to the game. I am more than willing to compensate your employees for their time. I am also sure putting a collection together from Twisting Nether players would be an easy task for this request.

I understand you will need to verify my sad story. Please feel free to visit the Twisting Nether Gazette, as many of the great joys of Rick's life over the last few years and the sad details of his loss are documented there. You may also contact me via email, cell: **********, or in game on either of my accounts- ******* or ********

Rick will be greatly missed by all of us. Please give us something on the server that brought us all together to remember him by.

Thank you for your time,

Daniel Bouchard

Ofanim
12-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Often times life is a difficult journey and when the day comes that the destination is reached it is not ourselves but our friends and family that get to look back on the journey you have taken to admire and look at the trip you made. In every tear that falls from their face a wonderful moment of their life that was impacted by you is remembered. In their laughter remains the stories of silly times and inside jokes that are finally shared with everyone else, and in their sadness are the moments that remind people that their life is a better place because you were in it.

I am sad right now even though I know I shouldn't be, not because it doesn't suit a bear to be sad at the passing of a friend but because I know that I should be happy because there is no pain in whatever state or whatever religious end you are in now. I suppose it's greed or selfishness that causes me to want my friends to always be with me, and on this day I am okay with being called a selfish jerk or anything else if it would keep you around with us.

I hope you are happy where you are and that all the drops are epic.

(As a side note I would appreciate it if someone knows what pet Skafloc last used and it's name so that I may pick one up in his honor.)

Inwa
12-26-2008, 02:45 PM
Raven. Named Ebony.

Although he was probably best known for Elmo, the red windserpent.

Niethan
12-26-2008, 02:48 PM
Skaf was using Ebony, a dire raven model.

And yeah, I miss Elmo too.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 02:55 PM
I also posted a request on the Suggestion forums and Customer Service forums. Please add your support

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985427&postId=139074041679&sid=1#0

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985426&sid=1

Errigal
12-26-2008, 03:01 PM
This needs to be in-game somewhere.

(( There are several lines written at the top, all scribbled out to be illegible. Eventually a delicate script flows on the page. ))

A wolf sat down on a rock one day;
A brief respite from a bout of play.
With a sudden flurry of wing and claw
A raven set down beside his paw.

In the verdant woods of Feralas.

The wolf was enamored of the bird,
So smitten he was he could utter no word.
Her ebony feathers dark, her eyes so bright,
Reflecting the stars of the warm summers night.

In the moonlit woods of Feralas

“Come hunt with me, stay by my side,”
He asked the raven, his green eyes so wide.
The raven preened her feathers and cocked her head.
She smiled at the wolf, “Mmhmmm” all she said.

In the love filled woods of Feralas.

Long weeks they spent together in play,
Sweet nights they enjoyed at the end of the day.
Wolf and raven together a pair,
Never was there a bond so fair.

In the storied woods of Feralas.

One day Wolf dashed into a cave,
Raven followed her mate; she was so brave.
When wolf emerged he sought for his love,
But there was no Raven swooping down from above.

In the dangerous woods of Feralas.

Long he sought her in places far and near,
He found her lying in pain and fear.
With broken wing she could not fly.
Wolf cried in sorrow for it seemed she might die.

In the tragic woods of Feralas.

Long days and nights he tended her wing,
He fed her, held her, sweet songs he would sing.
Yet though her wing did mend from his care,
No joy returned to the heart of Raven fair.

In the sad woods of Feralas.

“Why do you weep my love my mate?”
Asked Wolf one day, but it was too late.
For Raven had seen that which Wolf had not.
She loved him dearly, but a bird he was not.

In the quiet woods of Feralas.

“I cannot go where you do my Love.”
“I need to soar high with the Hawk and the Dove.”
“Should I run with you through bush and wood,”
“I fear my wings shall break for good.”

In the weeping woods of Feralas.

Wolf cried for a time but nodded his head,
He loved her so much, he would not see her dead.
“Then go my love, fly unto the sky.”
“But listen at night, you will hear my cry.”

Of love everlasting.

In the bittersweet woods of Feralas.

Raven took flight and soared to the sky,
An eagle circled the airs up high.
She joined the Eagle and together they flew,
Wolf watched them vanish into the sky so blue.

Over the green trees of Feralas.

A wolf sits down on a rock by day;
A brief respite from a bout of play.
At night he sings to the moon filled night,
A mournful call, to a Raven in flight.

In the verdant woods of Feralas.

Malorii
12-26-2008, 03:04 PM
I Posted

Inwa
12-26-2008, 03:07 PM
please be sure to post on both threads.

Thank you.

Malorii
12-26-2008, 03:08 PM
Has any one tried calling the bliazzard customer line? I can do this if no one else has or thought about this let me know now before i start sobbing again and get snot everywhere. :/

Inwa
12-26-2008, 03:12 PM
customer service probably isn't the best route to go, but I'm not going to stop you from trying.

Moknim
12-26-2008, 03:15 PM
Posted. I will keep bumping until we get a response.

And if we could get that in game Bir, that would be incredible.

Akuje
12-26-2008, 03:19 PM
I am genuinely touched by your memorial, and I grieve for your loss. It sounds as though Twisting Nether is truly poorer for his absence.

While we would love to honor every request for an in-game memorial we receive, I am sad to say that we are not typically in a position to do so - even in memory of the brightest of lights gone out. The outpouring of affection I've read here is truly affecting, and I encourage you and yours to memorialize Skafloc on Twisting Nether and let his name go on in your stories, and in your hearts.

Still, it can't hurt to make a post of this nature in our Suggestions forum, as that is the only locale where our Developers might have a chance to review your thoughtful missive.

A reply by Blizzard, Malkorix

Errigal
12-26-2008, 03:19 PM
That blue post was somewhat disheartening.

Malorii
12-26-2008, 03:21 PM
The more voices the better, I 'm going to call them and see what they want us to do instead of waiting for a blue to post. yeah calling them now

Inwa
12-26-2008, 03:22 PM
got a blue post on Customer service directing us to post on Suggestion forums.

It wasn't a no.

Just a response that the customer service folks can't do anything.

Please post your heart on on Suggestion forums.

Thank you.

Nymare
12-26-2008, 03:23 PM
I posted to both links, thank you for providing them.


Because of what I knew of him in character, and from in game experiences, I think he would be best suited in Farstrider's Square, in all honesty. He was always there to lend a helping hand and to guide in some way, in character and out.

If there are any other links or suggestions, please post them.

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 03:28 PM
I remember reading that poem, it was beautiful. Skaf is a wonderful writer and I think that all of his writing should be put together in some sort of compendium.

As per the petition, just point me in the right direction and I'll sign. He is my friend, and to all of us. I am finishing the picture today.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 03:31 PM
As per the petition, just point me in the right direction and I'll sign. .

right now we are on the Suggestion Forums, per the blue's directions.


http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985427&postId=139074041955&sid=1#6

Nadea
12-26-2008, 03:55 PM
I posted. I really hope we can get the support we need for this,and make it happen. I believe in this community, you're all amazing <3

Redburn
12-26-2008, 04:04 PM
I have added my signature to the petition.

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 04:22 PM
Thanks Nym, getting more opinions on the Social Group. :)

Izrail
12-26-2008, 05:17 PM
My account was canceled. Can someone copy/paste a message to the forum for me if I write it?

Malorii
12-26-2008, 06:07 PM
Hey just got off the phone with Blizzard they're going to call me back in 30 minutes so cross your fingers. I need more information though on skaflocs account maybe. Like an e-mail address or something. They're going to call me back in 30 minutes with more information. Is there someone who is close to Skaflocs family that would be able to help me on this?

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 06:20 PM
Contact Evanthe, Malorii.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 06:21 PM
They should have info on him just from his name and server. They can always use Armory :P

What else would they need?

Any info we have on him may not be what he put down on his account.

Besides, "a blizzard rep will NEVER ask for account information."

Malorii
12-26-2008, 06:23 PM
he was asking the name of the account, but i gave him the charecter names. stil lwaiting for them to call me back

Inwa
12-26-2008, 06:25 PM
we wouldn't know.

Hell, I don't even know the name of Eva's account, and I'm married to her.

Feel free to forward them on to my gmail or cell phone, Malo.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 06:27 PM
Best of luck to Malo.

Lets not give up on other leads though.

Make sure to keep this thread alive.


http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985427&sid=1&pageNo=2

Malorii
12-26-2008, 06:31 PM
Alright so we need to contact the PR department from blizzard and what they can do is help set up a memorial service.

We would need to email them at pr@blizzard.com

Charecter name, guild etc etc and basicly what they'll do is help us have a memorial service, so a gm would help us and such pick the location I guess, they didn't give me any details really. So the question now is who would like to contact the PR a bout setting this up? sHould we all do it as mass e-mail or should we do it cordinated. The Dev said we did a good thing by posting this on the suggestion fourm and that e-mailing The PR would be a good next step

Imara
12-26-2008, 06:34 PM
I actually e-mailed Blizzard earlier today and my e-mail was forwarded to that PR department e-mail (per the customer service rep that just replied to me).

He also stated that:


Alternatively, you may select to direct any inquiries/proposals via mail to:

Blizzard Entertainment
P.O. Box 18979
Irvine, CA 92623

Malorii
12-26-2008, 06:41 PM
Nice. I'll write out a letter then and i won't stop sending them dead squirlls till we have something nice to immortalize skafloc

Inwa
12-26-2008, 06:43 PM
I will forward my letter to PR.

I already sent snail mail

Nadea
12-26-2008, 06:51 PM
A thought- has anyone sent Blizzard a link in thier thier email, sending them to Skaf's other thread? The post there, and the pages upon pages of support from all of us in it, might help too.

Malorii
12-26-2008, 06:51 PM
Not yet i'll include that in my email then

Advurb
12-26-2008, 06:53 PM
I'll send one if need be when you figure out what exactly to do.

Imara
12-26-2008, 06:55 PM
A thought- has anyone sent Blizzard a link in thier thier email, sending them to Skaf's other thread? The post there, and the pages upon pages of support from all of us in it, might help too.

I actually linked the TNG and then specifically the strong healing thoughts thread in my e-mail.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 06:56 PM
The suggestion thread is being hijacked.

Someone go post something positive to get it back on track please.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985427&postId=139074242350&sid=1#33

Redburn
12-26-2008, 07:07 PM
posted.

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 07:25 PM
Posted on diff character

Leoren
12-26-2008, 07:34 PM
Posted.

I want to send out a thank you to the people who got this started by the way, and anyone who's been contributing.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 07:41 PM
Thank you all for your efforts so far.

Malorii
12-26-2008, 07:44 PM
Warm summer sun, shine kindly here; Warm northern wind, blow softly here; Green sod above, lie light, lie light Good-night, dear heart, good-night, good-night.

Has anyone contacted Skaflocs family? Maybe we should send something like a list of why skafloc has touched our hearts and send that with more flowers. That poor woman I cant imagine what she and her children are going through.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 07:47 PM
I believe we had a video in the works. Although I don't think we'll ever be able to do enough to adequately express to anyone just how much he meant to us.

Aphraelle
12-26-2008, 08:01 PM
I'm not sure what's going on, my play time has expired but I'm able to log onto the actual WoW site to view payment history and such, but every time I've tried to log onto the forums I get a "Login error." Tried changing my password but no luck.

If it's to do with a payment issue, I'll have to wait until my payment to my credit card goes through tomorrow - today the 26th is a holiday in Canada and my bank is closed - and then get some more play time, and then I'll post.

If that doesn't work I swear I'm going to break something.

Sinthe
12-26-2008, 08:01 PM
I posted.

I'm... at a loss for words.

Nymare
12-26-2008, 08:07 PM
Yes, the private forum was created because I wanted to do something for him, and I wanted it to be a surprise to him, and it turned into a place where everyone could contribute.

I absolutely hate that time was ripped away just that quickly. I really wanted him to see it, and us, and everything we put into it. :(

And I would still like to do it, if only to share with his family and for us, as a community, to keep.


As for here, please keep posting links and directions and ways we can help get this done.

Gorvena
12-26-2008, 08:22 PM
Posted.

Ellsbeth
12-26-2008, 08:22 PM
Remember, you don't need to post with your alts as though it's a new person. They can tell it's the same account. Just keep bumping.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985427&sid=1&pageNo=3

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 08:25 PM
I only did it to dissuade the negativity, not to sign twice. I figured blizzard could tell.

Ellsbeth
12-26-2008, 08:28 PM
Yes. I hate that people always have to respond in that haughty tone of writing: LOOK YOU WON'T GET THIS CAUSE...

Whatever. It's a suggestion. You don't have to respond if you don't agree with it.

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 08:32 PM
I think its pretty awful and insensitive, I wish we could delete said messages. I don't know how anyone could say such a thing about a person passing. How cold hearted can you be? Even if it is 'strain' on poor ol' blizzard what is the harm in asking? He was a great man, and great men deserve to be remembered.

Vilmah
12-26-2008, 08:34 PM
It's a shame this isn't Warhammer, or I'd take it to the fixture guys myself.

Nadea
12-26-2008, 08:38 PM
I think its pretty awful and insensitive, I wish we could delete said messages. I don't know how anyone could say such a thing about a person passing. How cold hearted can you be? Even if it is 'strain' on poor ol' blizzard what is the harm in asking? He was a great man, and great men deserve to be remembered.

I have reported some of the posts flagging them as innapropriate. We'll see if any of them get removed. I *have* reported posts on the forums before and watched them dissapear, so maybe.

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 08:40 PM
Nice, Nadea. I'll keep that in mind should I see anymore inappropriate posts.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 08:42 PM
Like I said before, I don't understand the negativity.

If someone wanted to put a bench in the park where they shared so many good times with a friend, would you tell them no just because everyone else's friend didn't get one?

"I'm sorry, you can't put flowers on that grave because the other graves next to it don't have flowers."

I'm sure if it weren't for the fact that I'm grieving, I wouldn't find those negative posts such an outrage.

Gorvena
12-26-2008, 08:45 PM
People suck. True story.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 08:46 PM
Please remember Skaf and keep all posts positive.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985427&postId=139074243183&sid=1#58

Advurb
12-26-2008, 08:53 PM
I'm sure if it weren't for the fact that I'm grieving, I wouldn't find those negative posts such an outrage.

Correct. Calm down guys. They have a point. Those posts are hardly "inappropriate" and should definitely not be deleted. Responses like this are appropriate:


I understand your point of view Maligord. It makes perfect sense, but that will not stop those of us who knew Skafloc from trying anyway. We may fail, but it never hurts to ask. So we shall keep on asking until Blizzard tells us that it will not happen.


Their posts are not just "negativity" and should definitely not be ignored. These folks are just keeping your hopes in check. It may be a good cause, but keep your tempers reined in. We live in a society where saying "Merry Christmas" is offensive. Keep these things in mind.

Inwa
12-26-2008, 09:00 PM
Just remember, negativity leads to more negativity.

Also, arguing against them lends their point more weight.

Keep it positive. Ignore those against it, and post on.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985427&postId=139074243220&sid=1#62

Inwa
12-26-2008, 09:07 PM
Kained,

please stop posting if you can not keep it kind, positive, and civil.

Kained
12-26-2008, 09:10 PM
I'm sorry this guy is just pissing me off like no other

Taknar
12-26-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm going to be one of the negative ones here and say that I think this is a bad idea. I've been thinking about this for awhile, and I don't think a memorial in a game that will eventually go away does his memory service.

What I would like to do is get in contact with Rick's family in Lower Sackville and discuss sending over money raised by TNGers individually. This money could be used to set up a bench in a park by his home, or near the port where his ship docked. Something that declares to all who walk by exactly how Rick's influence was international, interracial, and even transended past the usual limitations of the internet.

Advurb
12-26-2008, 09:13 PM
Kained,

please stop posting if you can not keep it kind, positive, and civil.

Agreed, and that post should be deleted. To be frank, it's a long shot already and immaturity will not help.

Ellsbeth
12-26-2008, 09:13 PM
What I would like to do is get in contact with Rick's family in Lower Sackville and discuss sending over money raised by TNGers individually. This money could be used to set up a bench in a park by his home, or near the port where his ship docked. Something that declares to all who walk by exactly how Rick's influence was international, interracial, and even transended past the usual limitations of the internet.

I do like this idea. I would be willing to put money toward it.

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 09:14 PM
That is a good idea as well ^

Vilmah
12-26-2008, 09:15 PM
What I would like to do is get in contact with Rick's family in Lower Sackville and discuss sending over money raised by TNGers individually. This money could be used to set up a bench in a park by his home, or near the port where his ship docked. Something that declares to all who walk by exactly how Rick's influence was international, interracial, and even transended past the usual limitations of the internet.

That's a great idea. I'll totally help out in any way I can.

Aphraelle
12-26-2008, 09:16 PM
What I would like to do is get in contact with Rick's family in Lower Sackville and discuss sending over money raised by TNGers individually. This money could be used to set up a bench in a park by his home, or near the port where his ship docked. Something that declares to all who walk by exactly how Rick's influence was international, interracial, and even transended past the usual limitations of the internet.

I would definitely be happy to help out with this!

Inwa
12-26-2008, 09:21 PM
I think we should do both.

For no other reason than Skaf would be THRILLED to be added in to the game some how. Thrilled.


Eva and I are willing to contribute anything.

Did Skaf have a favorite charity or cause? Perhaps we could donate something to that in his name from us?

Advurb
12-26-2008, 09:24 PM
I definitely would try to scrape some cash together for an RL commemoration.

Kained
12-26-2008, 09:24 PM
Wana apologize to everyone there for loosing my cool, I understand It's not civil to deal with people like this but when some arrogant child named "cuppycakes" comes along speaking like this I can't help but get mad. I Could punch him IRL easily np but when things like this come my words are what I have and they where a little to harsh. I had worse but I toned it down as best as I could but it's true It's not helping and I'm sorry again Skaf would def not wan't this of me and I can't help but feel lower then that moron posting in that threat for my actions.

Sorry.

Malorii
12-26-2008, 09:24 PM
We can do this, but like you said it's pointless to do it on something that will go away. Can you name one thing that lasts forever?

I can't everything we are have been or shall be, will become dust. Dust to be dug up by men in ugly yellow hats and whips at their hips getting his next tresure from a lost civilazation fixed.

Benches don't last, a little longer then a server on a game yes. How many years do you think a bench will last before the bolts and the wood rot, the park pavement cracks and the last member of the Rick blood line now with grand children of their own come to this bench?

It's a way of greiveing, it's a way of moving on. As a server, and as a community comeing togeather like this for a cause no matter, how small or, how trivial is a very beatiful thing.

Let us grieve, even if it is a small way, we can raise money and save for a bench in the park sure. But let us have this too. It doesn't need to make sence, it just needs to feel right.

I want the feeling that Skafloc is going to log in to come back and it's not, and it sucks really, really bad. There are so many things I wanted to thank him for but I can't do that, so let me do this...ok?

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 09:25 PM
I think the debating ought to be ignored on the thread though, it's derailing the cause quite a bit.

Vilmah
12-26-2008, 09:27 PM
I think the debating ought to be ignored on the thread though, it's derailing the cause quite a bit.

Agreed. Trolls are only worth as much as the attention they get.

The_Golden_Wolf
12-26-2008, 09:28 PM
Wana apologize to everyone there for loosing my cool, I understand It's not civil to deal with people like this but when some arrogant child named "cuppycakes" comes along speaking like this I can't help but get mad. I Could punch him IRL easily np but when things like this come my words are what I have and they where a little to harsh. I had worse but I toned it down as best as I could but it's true It's not helping and I'm sorry again Skaf would def not wan't this of me and I can't help but feel lower then that moron posting in that threat for my actions.

Sorry.

It's alright Kained. I understand the anger but, yeah it just feeds the negativity and distracts away from the cause y'know? There are many people out there that are cold and will be unsympathetic to our plight. Sucks, yes but it's the unfortunate reality of the world.

/hugs

Kained
12-26-2008, 09:31 PM
It's alright Kained. I understand the anger but, yeah it just feeds the negativity and distracts away from the cause y'know? There are many people out there that are cold and will be unsympathetic to our plight. Sucks, yes but it's the unfortunate reality of the world.

/hugs


I need a drink...

Inwa
12-26-2008, 09:55 PM
What if we had his character made in to one of those figurines? Is that company still doing that?

We could send that, plus a video/letter letting his family know just how much he meant to us.

I mean, with little more than text and pixels on a screen, he influenced so many.

His wife, and especially his kids should know that.

Malorii
12-26-2008, 10:02 PM
Yeah I think they still do, maybe even have one of those guild shirts made, but instead of the real guild name we could use Twisting Nether, our server name in place since he's so tied to all of us

Niethan
12-26-2008, 10:24 PM
I go to work for a few hours and this has exploded. Thank you everyone for turning a torch into a bonfire.

Nymare
12-26-2008, 10:56 PM
As I posted to the suggestion forums thread, I'll go ahead and repost here -

Anyone who's ever been horde and on Aldor rise and wondering why in fuck's name that night elf chick, Caylee Dak (http://www.wowwiki.com/Caylee_Dak), is red to them will know what I'm talking about. or maybe it's just me and I was ready to pick a fight with her, who knows.. but I looked her up on the internet to find out what she was used for. This was a while ago.

She gives a memorial quest to alliance to be turned in there. The link above is to the wowwiki for Caylee Dak.

Blizzard does do these things, but I don't know what magic button to push to make them pick OUR thing.

REGARDLESS, though- if it's not blue text, and it's not positive, it's not worth reading and certainly not worth responding to. We're grieving and they're... they're missing the parts of themselves that would ever earn them the sort of love and respect that we have for Rick. And I'm pretty sure they know this.

So ignore them.

They're not devs.

And for everything we admired in Rick, don't lower yourselves to their level.

Rand_Shea
12-26-2008, 11:15 PM
I can't post on those forums for some reason...

Anything done to honor Rick's memory I will fully support. Please just report negative posts as inappropriate and don't pay attention to the trolls. We have enough on this forum without them coming here to get us "riled up" more than we all ready are from his passing...

And, let's not have this turn into a "Winterspring Funeral Parade", either... He deserves better than to be remembered that way.

Lelenia
12-26-2008, 11:56 PM
Posted on the suggestion thread, will keep an eye out for more support options.

Kained
12-27-2008, 12:03 AM
Keep the thread bumping.

Xaraphyne
12-27-2008, 12:09 AM
Blizzard does do these things, but I don't know what magic button to push to make them pick OUR thing.

I'm going to try and make a post to explain what I think we need to do.

Rand_Shea
12-27-2008, 12:49 AM
If not an in game memorial... then how about getting them to name their next realm server after him, and make it an RP-PvP server?

Also... I'm worried about account hackers. I saw the stories from people here on TN who canceled months or even years ago getting their accounts broken into, ransacked, then banned...

I'm currently asking a GM if there's anything that can be done about that.

RavenReverend
12-27-2008, 01:08 AM
If not an in game memorial... then how about getting them to name their next realm server after him, and make it an RP-PvP server?

Also... I'm worried about account hackers. I saw the stories from people here on TN who canceled months or even years ago getting their accounts broken into, ransacked, then banned...

I'm currently asking a GM if there's anything that can be done about that.

I'd hate to see someone log on on his account and do something horrible lick G-quit : ( That'd be awful.

Xaraphyne
12-27-2008, 01:25 AM
I've posted my thoughts on why Rick deserves a memorial. Please, share yours about what made him special. He was special. He deserves a memorial.

Aquizit
12-27-2008, 02:02 AM
If anything, I would indeed like to see the Feralas poem he wrote in there, somewhere.. whether it be something like Caylee Dak's quest or whatever, it seems to have more of an... impact, I would say, than just a plaque with his name on it. Not that that wouldn't be nice too, it's just.. I dunno.. more?

Xaraphyne
12-27-2008, 02:05 AM
People, please stop responding to the trolls.

Arguing with them just makes the issue sound petty.

Concentrate on delivering your feelings about Skafloc. That's what will matter to people. Not getting caught up in a trivial debate about whether or not random troll #84374 is a jerk.

Please.

Rand_Shea
12-27-2008, 02:11 AM
Don't tarnish his memory by validating that people like... that exist.

Post smart, or don't post at all...

Kained
12-27-2008, 02:30 AM
Keep bumping, Ignore trolls

The longer we can keep this thread on top and up The more the Gm's will come to respond.

Rand_Shea
12-27-2008, 03:10 AM
This is my conversation with a GM regarding safeguarding Skaf's account so that, if anyone at all, only his family can have access to it.

12/26/2008]
23:58 [Aynieth]: Greetings, Dyiana! Game Master Aynieth here. Do you have a moment to chat?
23:58 [Dyiana]: Yes, please
23:59 [Aynieth]: First of all, I want to say I am very sorry for your loss.
23:59 [Dyiana]: He was a good friend, even if I didn't know him that long
23:59 [Dyiana]: I want to know what can be done to safeguard his account

[12/27/2008]
00:00 [Aynieth]: I understand. My condolences to you and his family.
00:00 [Dyiana]: There is a thread on the suggestions for him for a memorial, if you want to look at it and pass it along to other GMs
00:00 [Dyiana]: suggestions forum, that is
00:01 [Aynieth]: While our developers are the ones with the ability to change things in game, I will still definitely look at it. :)
00:02 [Dyiana]: Thank you. I can't post on it for some reason, but those who started it would appreciate all the support we can get
00:02 [Aynieth]: As for the account, I believe the best thing to do would be for the family to call our billing department to discuss the options available. I'm not sure if they would be able to lock the account, but it is worth a try.
00:02 [Dyiana]: If someone bought an authenticator for the account, could that be linked to it through them?
00:04 [Aynieth]: Actually, yes. If the family were to access the account and purchase an authenticator, it could be linked.
00:04 [Dyiana]: I don't want access to the account, or for anyone other than his family to... I just want to preserve his memory by making sure no one desecrates it
00:04 [Dyiana]: Ah, excellent
00:04 [Aynieth]: I understand completely. :)
00:05 [Dyiana]: Thank you
00:05 [Aynieth]: You're very welcome.
00:05 [Aynieth]: Was there anything else I can help you with today?
00:05 [Dyiana]: Pass along the link to the thread in the suggestions forum to your co-workers, if you can
00:05 [Aynieth]: Will do. :)
00:06 [Dyiana]: Thank you for your time, and understanding
00:06 [Aynieth]: Again, I am very sorry for your loss.
00:06 [Aynieth]: It's no problem at all. You take care, Dyiana, and thank you for playing. :)
00:06 [Dyiana]: Have a good night
00:06 [Aynieth]: You too. :)
00:07 [Aynieth]: Please let the Blizzard Game Master staff know how we can improve our service by contacting wowgmfeedback-us@blizzard.com to comment on your experience. *waves*

Leoren
12-27-2008, 03:41 AM
Raven Cross has made an honorary rank 'In Memoriam' just for Skafloc, second only to the GM's ( system limitations ). For as long as the guild stands we'll continue to honor him.

Lelenia
12-27-2008, 03:57 AM
Going to found a guild with one of my alt, "Friends of Skafloc"...need to get some signatures (not hard), and anyone alliance-side that wants toons, main or alts, will be welcome.

...would anyone be opposed to this idea?

Inwa
12-27-2008, 09:42 AM
Going to found a guild with one of my alt, "Friends of Skafloc"...need to get some signatures (not hard), and anyone alliance-side that wants toons, main or alts, will be welcome.

...would anyone be opposed to this idea?

Only thing that would concern me is that it would be responsible for their actions.

Not everyone has a good day every day. I'd hate to see someone be an asshat carrying that guild tag.

Its for that reason I myself wouldn't join. I can't make a promise that I wouldn't be a total prick everyonce in a while, and I'll be damned if I were to carry that guild tag when it happened.

Inwa
12-27-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm doing a personal project. Something to send from me to Skaf's family.

I'd like your help with it.

Please email me the following-

A pic of you IRL

A pic of your character (some of you may need to pic one)

Your RL Bio:
Name
Location
Occupation
Misc

What you loved most about Rick.

A life lesson Rick taught you.

Please email these to me on my gmail- Dboucha526@Gmail.com

I will send you all a copy when it is complete.

Thank you.

teutelquessir
12-27-2008, 04:20 PM
I never knew Skafloc well. The few times I ran into him, he was always a cheerful soul. I wish all the best to his friends and family.

Nymare
12-27-2008, 05:04 PM
I'm doing a personal project. Something to send from me to Skaf's family.

His real life friend posted this here (http://www.wow-tng.org/showpost.php?p=255024&postcount=444), and I am only reposting to make sure it does not get overlooked.

Inwa
12-27-2008, 05:21 PM
Thank you for that, Nymare.

It wasn't something I was going to send right away.

I wanted to put together something that I think would show the most important lesson we learned from skaf.

We all are very different. We all have very different ages, back grounds, come from different places, do different things.

And yet Skaf was a friend to us all.

I wanted to show that there was something very important to be learned from that. That the Rick they new (lord knows better than we did) was on to something.

Friendship knows no bounds. It is limitless. Can be cultivated over any medium and any distance. A kind heart and a warm smile can be sent from across the globe and still be sensed through a cold, lifeless computer monitor.

I wanted to show us, as we really are. To illustrate our differences in black and white. To point out the fact that Rick was still a good friend to all of us, regardless of those differences, and although we cannot begin to understand their grief and loss, we too will miss him and mourn with them.

I firmly believe the dead are remembered by what they teach us. I wanted to show that the lesson I learned from Rick, was that friendship, and kindness, are limitless.

I do not know their relationship with their husband/father/friend. But the thought of them not knowing the kind of heart, warmth, and creativity Rick showed us, the thought of them missing that aspect of him does not sit well with me.

When I got the news, I excused myself from work with the words "I'm sorry, I have to go. My friend died." I did not say "Guildmate" or "WoW buddy" or even "Pen Pal". I said Friend.
I went home to Eva, where we both cried.

Skafloc/Rick had more friends than I think even HE knew he had. Everyone should know that.

What I was trying to do was beyond WoW. But i will trust those who knew him more than I and not send it. The last thing I want to do is cause more pain.

Malorii
12-27-2008, 06:56 PM
This was posted on the Ghant Fourms, Thanks to the Ghants for this information.

MOHR, Petty Officer First Classs Richard Walter "Rick"
42, of Lower Sackville, passed away at home on December 25, 2008, lovingly surrounded by his family. Born in Etobicoke, Ont., he was a son of Gerhard Mohr, Missiauga, Ont. and the late Elisabeth (Oswald) Mohr. Rick served in the Canadian Navy for 22 years receiving his basic training in Cornwallis and Esquimault. He served on the HMCS Nipigon, the HMCS Gateneau, the HMCS Athabaskan, the HMCS Fraser, the HMCS Charlottetown, HMCS Preserver, HMCS Provider and the HMCS Toronto and most recently again on the HMCS Athabaskan as manager of it's communication department. He served during the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf Conflict, many NATO Tours of Duty, and was an instructor at the Fleet School. Although Rick served his country with pride and dedication, he devoted his spare time to family activities with particular attention to his children's soccer games and playtime with his dogs Schroeder and the late Maggie. He coached soccer for the Scotia Soccer Club where he also served on the executive. He enjoyed cooking, gardening, hiking and the time spent as a Scout leader. He will always be remembered as a loving and devoted father and husband. He is survived by his wife of 17 years, Natasha (Zinck); daughter, Elisabeth; son, Andrew; sister, Sandra (husband Al); grandfather, Walter; stepmother, Florence; cherished mother-in-law, Tootsie; sisters-in-law, Cynthia (husband Andreas Paul), Carla (husband Glen), Alexis (husband Phil) and very special sister-in-law, Chrissie (husband Gary); brother-in-law, Shane (spouse Rhonda); and very special family friend, Gary Carson. He will be sadly missed by his many aunts and uncles, cousins, nieces and nephews. He was predeceased by a very special grandmother, Stephanie and grandparents, Martin and Theresa. Visitation will be held Monday, December 29, from 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. in Atlantic Funeral Home, 125 Sackville Dr., Lower Sackville. A funeral service will be held Tuesday at 1 p.m. in Stoneridge Baptist Church. Burial will be in Oakridge Memory Gardens. No flowers by request. Donations may be made to the Brain Tumor Foundation of Canada or QEII Foundation Neurosurgery Unit. On-line condolences may be made to the family by visiting the website: www.atlanticfuneralhomes.com



Full link here http://thechronicleherald.ca/announcements/display.php?anntype=obituaries~2008/12/27~16810265

Brakogar
12-27-2008, 08:18 PM
Remember that Memorial ceremony I held for Lupa a couple of years back? It kind of feels so prophetic now :(.

http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=958&highlight=lupa

(Lupa was Rick's old character when I used to play)

Inwa
12-27-2008, 09:35 PM
Malo,

I know you are passionate about this, as am I, and I thank you for all your efforts and energy, but please try to stay calm and collected when posting on the thread.

If you haven't posted a positive thought about Skaf, and a reason why he should be memorialized, please post here.


http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11122&sid=1

The_Golden_Wolf
12-28-2008, 04:01 AM
The topic was deleted? What?

Advurb
12-28-2008, 04:03 AM
Enough of those guys probably reported it for BS reasons like "Not a suggestion" or "realm specific" that blizzard auto-deleted it. Happens quite often.

Lelenia
12-28-2008, 05:31 AM
"realm specific"? We posted on the realm forums, and were told to toss it into suggestions....

Damn it, I hate (PM me if you want to know the rest of this)!

....BAH!

Rand_Shea
12-28-2008, 05:38 AM
I know everyone is probably still really raw about all this happening... I know I am. I'm catching myself thinking "I wonder how Skaf is doing" or "I wonder when he's going to log on again". It's so surreal, I don't want to believe he's really gone.

But, I remembered a song back from 1997... a remix of a 1980's song, written by a rapper in Brooklyn, performed by Puff Daddy, Faith Evans, and a few other musicians. It was performed to honor the death of Notorius B.I.G. that same year, but... I feel it can be used for any instance where the death of a loved one, or a friend, has been experienced.

I found the lyrics comforting. Music is sometimes a good way to live through times like these... particularly if the song is about something similar to what the listener is going through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI3IG3kEvpE

Please take a look at it if any of you think it will help... maybe it could also inspire some more ideas to help honor Rick in our own way.

Aphraelle
12-28-2008, 07:02 AM
I posted in the Customer Service forum, quoting the GM and noting that the post in the Suggestions forum has been deleted.

Inwa
12-28-2008, 09:32 AM
I posted in the Customer Service forum, quoting the GM and noting that the post in the Suggestions forum has been deleted.

I voiced my concerns as well.

Please, POLITELY add your voice to the customer service thread as well. Politely.

Thank you.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13908985426&postId=139074157603&sid=1#17

EDIT: Also, please make your response some kind of feedback. /sign or any other form of petitioning is generally not tolerated. That's not to say we CAN'T petition, we just have to do it with comments, not signatures.

Inwa
12-28-2008, 11:07 AM
Please voice your concerns to
wowreportedpost@blizzard.com

The thread was titled We will miss you, Skafloc.

Thanks.

Xaraphyne
12-29-2008, 10:58 AM
Anyone got a response yet? I'm all for restarting the thread, with the understanding that it was likely because it was being treated like a petition that made it get deleted, and steps taken to prevent that from happening again.

Ellsbeth
12-29-2008, 11:24 AM
It would need to be worded in the form of a suggestion. Like some of those trolls mentioned over and over. They did have a point though. If they can't argue the reason for the existence of the thread, they will have to argue the actual topic of the thread.

opalexian
12-29-2008, 12:36 PM
How did they get that other memorial character put in-game? Maybe getting a packet together of letters from everyone on the subject and mailing that in to customer service (or preferably one particular person) would help the cause.

Malorii
12-29-2008, 12:46 PM
Haven't got anything yet.

Yeah you know what I think thats a good idea. Putting something together and mailing it to blizzard might get a bit more of a response from them, should we all send it by ourselves or make one large package and send it along with our letters of debate to blizzard?

Xaraphyne
12-29-2008, 02:08 PM
I dunno if I'd include anything that would be a "debate" per se. We don't want to put Blizzard representatives on the defensive. We want to inspire them. I'd word things less to be like reasons why not and instead be reasons why.

Malorii
12-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Debating as to why it would be nice to have his character or some sort of memorial made in game for him.

Swerto
12-29-2008, 05:50 PM
I'd rather not put them on the defensive because they don't have to do ANYTHING, it's their game. We just need to ask, beg, do everything we can to get them to feel sympathy for us and do what we believe needs to be done.

Xaraphyne
12-30-2008, 08:28 AM
Here's the e-mail I got:

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Greetings,

Unfortunately, we are unable to restore a thread once it has been deleted. I can offer some general guidelines that may help. If the thread was remade, refrain from discussing about prior moderation and ask others to refrain from posting /signed. If anyone makes inappropriate remarks, please use the biohazard symbol to report the post.

-The World of Warcraft Community Team


-----Original Message-----
From: alexiellekentras@excite.com mer
To: wowreportedpost@blizzard.com
Sent: 12/29/2008 8:01:02 AM
Subject: Deleted post: "We will miss you, Skafloc" in "Suggestions/Bugs" Forum

If because people were saying things like "/sign" was why the thread was deleted, I am deeply unhappy that the thread went that way, but it was not the intention and spirit in which the thread was made. Please reinstate the thread. Please feel free to ignore inappropriate responses. Or, guarantee us that if we start up the thread again with a note to leave more thought-out responses that it will not be deleted. Otherwise, please let us know what was inappropriate about the thread so that we may find a way to appropriately continue to express our desire to see a memorial made. Thank you.


----------------------------


Didn't seem like they looked into it much but it's worth trying again. Inwa, do you want to repost the thread?

Malorii
12-30-2008, 10:13 AM
I'd rather not put them on the defensive because they don't have to do ANYTHING, it's their game. We just need to ask, beg, do everything we can to get them to feel sympathy for us and do what we believe needs to be done.

Right, which is what i'm trying to get at. It's not _ment_ to be defensive, a company that would be up in arms over getting a few letters in the mail with sparkle stickers and top ten reasons why this person kicks ass would be kind of silly.

Gorvena
12-30-2008, 01:27 PM
a company that would be up in arms over getting a few letters in the mail with sparkle stickers and top ten reasons why this person kicks ass would be kind of silly.
Such a company would certainly not be one that I would be willing to give my $15/month to...

But then there are the tools in the mail room that hate glitter.

Malorii
12-30-2008, 03:57 PM
I'm still makeing them a collage :/ I have glue, Popsicle sticks, markers and glitter.

Xaraphyne
12-30-2008, 04:00 PM
I'm also thinking about writing a letter to several WoW journalism sites, like WoW Insider. If they take notice, others may take notice as well.

Jeedup
12-30-2008, 04:13 PM
This....is a very saddening thing to come back to from over a week of vacation.

Okay, in game memorials for players, have been done before. So its possible.

We just need to be loud, and most importantly, respectful enough.

Sabachthan
12-30-2008, 05:20 PM
I'm also thinking about writing a letter to several WoW journalism sites, like WoW Insider. If they take notice, others may take notice as well.
This. Contact other journalism sites.

Write out the most eloquent and well thought-out piece possible as to why Skafloc deserves a memorial. I think Dan (Inwa) did a great job with his.

I recommend Dan post a new thread proposing the memorial; the original post should also remind everyone of the guildlines for the forum.

EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD NOT /SIGNED but rather post your own well thought-out piece. DO NOT RESPOND TO NEGATIVE TROLLS other than to say, "Yeah, we know this is a long shot, but this guy did so much for our community and enjoyment of WoW" -- (emphasis how he enriched the game a lot) -- "that we figure it can't hurt to at least suggest an in-game memorial."

Also send a written version of your well thought-out piece to Blizzard's address
Blizzard Entertainment
P.O. Box 18979
Irvine, CA 92623

Villayna
12-30-2008, 06:32 PM
I'm also thinking about writing a letter to several WoW journalism sites, like WoW Insider. If they take notice, others may take notice as well.

This guy looks like he's floundering for topics. I use to read his stuff quite a bit in the past but I've gotten out of the habit of checking WoWInsider (former coworker pretty much lived on that site and would always be forwarding me links).

http://www.wowinsider.com/category/all-the-worlds-a-stage/

Xaraphyne
12-30-2008, 07:33 PM
I'm not sure I'm the best person for it, but I'd be willing to write up a letter to WoW Insider.

Amoola
12-30-2008, 07:44 PM
I'm sure that more then one person could write something and then one person put them all together to send in to 'all the world is a stage' When it comes to wow insider that would be the perfect place to start.

Malorii
12-30-2008, 09:01 PM
This is what I was trying to say before :/

l3rokken4ngel
12-31-2008, 01:32 AM
I just got settled back in from christmas break and was reading this and found out about Skaf. I'd be for the addition of a memorial though I would imagen it would be difficult to get Blizzard to do it. Kinda like a "if we do it for you, we have to do it for everyone" kinda thing. =\ But if we could get one that would be awesome. Skaf was one of the first few people I met on the server and I will miss him a great deal.

My best wishes go out to his family as well.

Xaraphyne
12-31-2008, 08:39 AM
This is what I was trying to say before :/

No worries Mal, no one meant to jump on you. People are just worried that some folks might take up an argumentative stance when approaching Blizzard, which would be counterproductive in the end. But it's hard to feel threatened by popsicle sticks and glitter! ...Hopefully.

Xaraphyne
12-31-2008, 01:06 PM
Here is my first draft. Please offer any suggestions or criticism you have, any at all, especially if I got anything wrong. Be brutal, it's not about my skill in writing it. I want this to be the best it can be for Skafloc. If it drags on, if something can be better phrased, just let me know.

I intend to contact his family to ask permission to submit to the public (1) the real-life pictures, (2) links to his in-character writings, (3) a repost of his poem, and (4) a link to his out-of-character Healing Thoughts thread. If they're not comfortable with any of these I'll edit them out.

Also Nina, I'm guessing you don't mind me adding a link to that picture you did, but let me know if you'd rather I didn't. If you don't mind, let me know what name to credit it with, and if you want to upload a watermarked version first or anything.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I wanted to take a few minutes to tell you about someone. He was a World of Warcraft player unlike any other; a pillar of our community. Rick Mohr first appeared to us in January of 2006, just a few months after the opening of the RP-PvP server Twisting Nether and the founding of a roleplaying community forum for roleplayers of the server, the Twisting Nether Gazette (http://wow-tng.org/) or TNG. He left our world on December 25, 2008.

In those nearly three years, he touched countless lives with his friendly and wise nature. If I can, I want to share that with you.

Before his online social life, he was a soldier for his country, a father to his children, and a husband to his wife. He was a member of the Canadian military for 22 years, married for 17 years (http://malevolent.org/skafloc/11pg.jpg), and in addition to his wife is survived by a daughter and son. He loved his family and his dogs, volunteered to lead Scouts and coach soccer, and enjoyed gardening, hiking, and barbecuing in the snow (http://malevolent.org/skafloc/party010.jpg) (as well as cooking in general). He had a great (http://malevolent.org/skafloc/blushingbride.jpg") sense (http://malevolent.org/skafloc/GunRun2.jpg) of humor (http://malevolent.org/skafloc/sideffects.jpg).

He also loved to write. Over the three years he shared with us, he contributed an immense amount of writing to the TNG. This was dwarfed perhaps only by how much roleplaying he did in-game. He loved to roleplay, and didn't care if events had a convenient or happy ending for his characters as long as they made a good story. Nor did he care how young or old, impulsive or mature was the player of any character his met; he respected everyone, and with a wholeheartedness rarely seen, he was open to any and all roleplaying opportunities that presented themselves.

As a result, he became one of the most famous and well-loved roleplayers on our server. His willingness to take initiative and go with any story is how I met him (http://renedreamer.com/Skafloc/WoWScrnShot_103107_013509.jpg), as well as how many others did. His best-known characters were Nouri the Wanderer, Lupa the huntress, and Skafloc, the Red Baron. In addition to these, he played a myriad of other characters, including the secretive "The Shadow", whose player's identity was not revealed until after he passed away.

Out of character, he was impossibly friendly, and warmly enthusiastic about story collaboration and roleplaying with both old friends and new players. He was known for the joy he took in cooking up new plot twists, his occasional raunchy joke, and the interest he put in simple catching-up with friends. More than one person got cooking tips from him, and sometimes, sage advice. He had a gentle hand with those who would stir tempers and never got involved in any of the petty drama that can often accompany roleplayers. He just wanted to spend time with friends, and take part in good stories. More often than not, this wise outlook gave those who needed it something to mull over.

In character, he possessed a creative genius and a gift for words that shone in all his writing. A full list (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=14845) of his most significant writings has been compiled, but here are some gems that I think shine the brightest.

As Lupa
The Cleansing of Atal'Hakkar - A Saga in Prose (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=120)
The Saga of Lupa'Jin (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=306)

As Nouri
Nouri The Heretic (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=858)

As "The Shadow"
News From the Grave (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=6116)

As Skafloc
The Answer.. (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=4637)
Sunset Serenade (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=7398) (art by Ninorra (http://www.duchessofdork.com/images/sunsetsonata.jpg))
The Surly Wench (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=8450)
Misdirections (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=9745)

And last but not least, the work that is largely considered to be one of the most beautiful things he ever wrote. I hope you love this poem as much as we do. From Skafloc's "Personal Archives (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=6234)":


Poem to be put here
Poem will go here
Poem to be put here
Poem will go here

Poem to be put here
Poem will go here
Poem to be put here
Poem will go here

...



A beautiful poem by Rick Mohr.

From the time he was diagnosed with an extremely malignant brain tumor in October until the disease took his life in December, he continued to write and to keep in close contact with us. His bravery and optimism are amazingly chronicled in this out-of-character thread (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=13580) on TNG. He passed away before he could see the fruits of many labors on his behalf, including a video of over two dozen people giving voices to their characters, numerous pieces of artwork, and an in-game event which he most definitely would have appreciated (mud is involved).

Twisting Nether is a sadder place without Rick. Few are as genuinely warm and welcoming as he was, but his memory and his writings will continue to inspire us. Thank you for taking the time to read this. I know as a fellow roleplayer that you've met and roleplayed with many others, and I hope you can see what an amazing person Rick was in our RP community in World of Warcraft.


Meredith McCord, or "Xaraphyne"

Vilmah
12-31-2008, 01:10 PM
No way, man. Link away.

Xaraphyne
12-31-2008, 01:25 PM
Is "Ninorra" all right or do you want to use your real name?

Vilmah
12-31-2008, 01:55 PM
Either or. Nina would be okay, too.

Villayna
12-31-2008, 02:10 PM
He continued to write and to keep in close touch with us from when he was diagnosed with an extremely malignant brain tumor in October, through when the disease made a staggering assault and took his life in December.

seemed a bit clunky.. maybe just rearrange?

From the time he was diagnosed with an extremely malignant brain tumor in October until the disease took his life in December he continued to write and to keep in close contact with us.

Everything else seemed awesome :)

Xaraphyne
12-31-2008, 02:55 PM
Perfect Mort, I'll edit that. Did you see any factual errors at all?

Xaraphyne
01-02-2009, 09:20 AM
All right... Since Eph is currently dealing with some personal problems, I think I'll go ahead and repost the request on the WoW Suggestions/Bugs forum. I might take some things from the letter above, but I also have some ideas about responses.

I'm going to make a list of people who have responded here and elsewhere (like Avalon-Citadel, or in-game) about Skafloc, and personally ask them to respond to the thread. I'm also going to explain that they should post about what made Skafloc special and why he deserves a memorial; and also what they think a good idea for a memorial would be.

I'll work on the post today. I hope people haven't lost hope in this.

Villayna
01-05-2009, 11:11 AM
Did you send the email to wowinsider, Xara?

Xaraphyne
01-05-2009, 12:06 PM
No, not yet. I'm waiting to see what Mrs. Skafloc says.

Xaraphyne
01-05-2009, 04:01 PM
Sent.

I've also been working on a post for the Suggestions forum, but I'm finding it hard to say the same things again without using the same words. I don't know if I have it in me. Maybe if WoW Insider decides to publish an article, there will be enough interest that someone will do it.

Xaraphyne
01-14-2009, 10:49 AM
At this time, I still haven't received a response. I thought it was promising at first that they didn't immediately shoot back a "sorry for your loss, take care" letter, but now I'm beginning to doubt I'll hear anything back from them. I don't know if it was phrased well enough to appeal to what was essentially a business, honestly. I think I'd like to focus on our efforts to compile and publish Rick's writing, we don't need to worry about getting anyone else's attention or approval for that.