Priest help needed

[Evanthe]

So! I hit 80 the other night on my priest and have absolutely no idea what I'm doing as far as pvp goes. I only hit 70 on her a couple weeks before wrath hit, so I'm really very new at this and would like to not completely suck.

I'm looking for build help and any tips and tricks from experienced priests. Thank you muchly!

Oh, I should mention I want to be a pvp healer, not pew pew shadow.

[Akuje]

I like this spec..
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVIbuh0trxs0boZfxt0bbqb

What it does is allow you to really stack Crit chance. Which helps for PvP. the more you crit then less you need to heal, in theory >.> . With perks to crit chance when health is low.

Another positive to this? It works for raiding too... so that's less respeccing..

It's biggest draw back is you loose some of the survivability. And you become dependent on others around you. But then again, a healing PvP priest is used to that =)

About all I can offer, as my highest priest was... 13?

[Resinous]

You could probably devise it better than this but, this is an idea of something that works. This way you can heal, stun, slow, silence, fear and dps. And I think they still have it to where if you have reflective shield up and cast shadow word death, the dmg you take reflects back at you're opponent for extra dmg. It used to work like that anyway.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxIMucgxM0sm0RhbZhxbioMo

[Taknar]

Waiting for Aver's feedback, then I will respond with my points.

My opinion on priest PvP is slightly skewed since I run with 51 points in Holy and take a build that looks a hell of a lot like a PvE build.

Taknar gives you wings!

[Feorn]

I'm gonna pipe in here.

A holy build is better at this point for PvP. Between the Blessed Recovery buff where it stacks like ignite (used to?) and the low resilience numbers. Blessed Resilience is > Focused Will.

Something like:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxIrzZbLthf0aiuAIsz

For the first couple weeks. Once we start passing the 7-8% crit reduction disc might start to shine alot more. That spec is a better outlast spec, facing a team without massive burst or interrupts.

You can move points around to taste out of Holy Concentration if you don't use Greater Heal and get all the talents improving Prayer of Mending. It's a little more arena focused that way:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxIrhZfEzhoMRi0Ahst

That spec is alot more useful against rogue, mage and death knight matchups where you face a long lockout on cast times if they land an interrupt.

Gonna add an edit here: No matter what spec you are, abuse prayer of mending. Keep your partner within the jump range. If you're in a fight keep renew up on yourself. It might last you through that paladin's HoJ or the rogue's kidney shot. Your first purchase (when they release it) should be a 2 minute pvp trinket. Make your partner(s) run interference. They should snare anything they can, while you keep as far as possible form the melee. If the melee gets on you, make sure your partner stays within the PoM jump range otherwise you won't be able to put out enough healing to keep you both alive.

[Thrysta]

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Evanthe, are you concentrating on Arenas, world pvp/BG's or both?
This will make a big difference in your build and tactics.

I would be happy to give you advice if you would like it, as all I've done
for the last seven months is PvP as both Holy and Disc specs.

But, I'm going to need to know more about what you're focusing on.
))

[Lisbet]

I dunno what anyone else does when they pvp heal. I go full, or at least vast majority Disc (I do it for raiding too cause I dislike CoH)

Something slightly like this, though points are thrown around in other places occasionally.. depends on what kind of healing I'm doing -- mmm bubbles (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bIcduhxxMxcifRtbxu)


Then its a Flash heal glyph, a bubble Glyph, and a Dispel Glyph, and I pound flash heals and PoM into Heid. So long as I'm not incapacitated or out of mana, he'll stay alive to kill anyone smart enough to turn around and try and pound me into the dirt ;p


Mind you - I am a HORRIBLE pvper and never Arena, but I have little trouble in BG's when I have a built in monster machine plugging along in front of me clearing a path to awesome ;p

[NotMaithanet]

I dunno what anyone else does when they pvp heal. I go full, or at least vast majority Disc (I do it for raiding too cause I dislike CoH)

Something slightly like this, though points are thrown around in other places occasionally.. depends on what kind of healing I'm doing -- mmm bubbles (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bIcduhxxMxcifRtbxu)


Then its a Flash heal glyph, a bubble Glyph, and a Dispel Glyph, and I pound flash heals and PoM into Heid. So long as I'm not incapacitated or out of mana, he'll stay alive to kill anyone smart enough to turn around and try and pound me into the dirt ;p


Mind you - I am a HORRIBLE pvper and never Arena, but I have little trouble in BG's when I have a built in monster machine plugging along in front of me clearing a path to awesome ;p

Priest / Paladin v. Priest / Paladin. Lets dew eet!

[Evanthe]

Thank you all for the advice!

Thrysta-- I'm looking primarily at arenas, although any info on bgs or world pvp would be good as well.

[Daly]

Thrysta-- I'm looking primarily at arenas, although any info on bgs or world pvp would be good as well.

Sorry I'm late, traffic was rough.

Disclaimer: While my "street cred" in PvP is generally not in question, I played a shadow priest most of the time. However, I have Arena'ed as Disc/Holy and I like to think I kept current with information on all three tress as it related to PvP. Therefore, my advice may need grains of salt.

Like Thrysta, I have questions. The bracket and/or partners you plan on playing with will make significant differences. For instance if you plan on focusing on 5's I would suggest away from Imp:Shield. In 2's however, it's a near must.

Assuming mostly 2's and 3's, my suggested spec would look something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxhMuIgtMcsVbotfVzoZ0h

Notice the 3 points in blackout? Yeah those are points you could put anywhere depending on playstyle, partner, etc. Want more Hps? Enlightment. Want more AC? Inner fire. Itching to smite someone? Divine fury. Playing with a caster? Imp DS.

Also worth noting is that depending on the way that Mana burn scales makes these 2 points marginal. I'd say the same thing about absolution with dispell protection mechanics the way they are these days, but 0.5 MD is still too good to get away from.

You WILL WILL WILL die to melee trains. DKs WILL WILL WILL kill you. Mage/Rogue combos will make you wonder what the hell just happened. Until S5 sets come more into play and resi is higher than it is now, I'd play shadow. Double and triple DPS are going to destroy people. Healing is marginal at the moment, in my ever so humble opinion.

edit: My thoughts on previously linked builds:

Mae: You and I agree on bubbles. But you have no dispell protection? So you are investing lots of points into something someone can strip/eat/purge/shieldbash/etc off? I'm also a big fan of martyrdom. Not a fan of Aegis unless you have off the chart crit chance, otherwise meh. Renewed Hope falls into the same category. Grace is meh also, but only because people will try and kill you first in 2's and 3's. It's great in 5's, world pvp and bgs I'd wager. As long as you can sit back and cast, it would be worthwhile. On the run, fake casting, etc, not so much. And for pure PvP Unbreakable will is just better than Twin Disc.

Feorn: Holy intrigues me because you can become crit immune and with decent crit gear, holy's crit talents synergize nicely. In the end though, I think Disc could withstand a train slightly longer due to Shields/PS/Penance. I'm interested to watch Holy as it progresses though.

Resinous: I'm a shadow priest at heart. I Love Silence! I would say that trading Penance for silence and even imp fear is a poor tradeoff. You lose some mana viability and shield become less viable. Losing Focused Will would hurt a lot too. Shadow damage REALLY suffers without Shadowform.

Akuje: I would say this is a more DPS-centric holy/Disc build. Penance or Guardian Spirit are near musts for the PvP healing priest.

Again, these are simply my opinions and I mean almost no disrespect. (The almost is a joke Pals)

[Resinous]

Ya we stole a build that was something like that from a good priest back before they released the 51 point talent tree's. So I just kinda built on it adding the silence which we didn't have during season 4. Its cool to have a priest that can throw out reflective shields and heal decently but can also dish out some good CC. Might overwhelm some people though. I have no idea what will work this season really. Will just have to wait and see who can walk the walk with what speccs.

[Akuje]

Akuje: I would say this is a more DPS-centric holy/Disc build. Penance or Guardian Spirit are near musts for the PvP healing priest.



What my build was intended for was BGs and 5v5 or possible 3v3, but still allow her to jump and do PvE without constantly respeccing, it's a middle road build.

[NotMaithanet]

To answer Daly it's Ret Paladin / X spec Priest.