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Fhenrir
10-04-2008, 01:59 PM
A general list of commonly accepted PvP cookie cutter specs, and maybe some zany specs too. Specs outside of the classes I play are not something I'm familiar with, so insight on most classes would be appreciated.

Note that discussion for specific specs should be reserved for new topics; this topic simply serves as a list. If you post a PvP spec, I'll add it (assuming it isn't already listed).

Warriors
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdGbqMbzbZVVzu0gRc Slam/Fury (Arms)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdGbqMbdbZVVzu0xRZc Tactical Mastery (Arms)

Paladins
Note some of these points are interchangeable and not universally agreed upon; the below are my preferred specs within each cookie cut.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVxhMxkhektVGzhRc Arena Holy
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVGzhRhZVfcth0uiIoz 20/41 Ret (with 35 second HoJ)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sxZZEfctGcuiIsd Heavy Ret

Shamans


Hunters


Rogues
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboyZZxMjoMGRoxst Arena Sub (Swords/Maces/etc)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecoZZEMec0GRcxst Gankstep Daggers (think Beggan)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecREgsizVoZEM Mutilate/Sub
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecoyMsizVohfV0bV Mutilate/Combat


Druids


Priests


Mages
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=obxVbobZZVVGhobxofqt Frost (With ImpCS)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0ibRfdMhzbZVtMzfbcRo PoM Pyro

Warlocks
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rVRckoZbxczIiz0es SL/SL (1)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IA0rbRrkoZbxczIizzjs SL/SL (2)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IV0bZbxZVx0tr0tAuAo Destro (Fire)

Chikt
10-04-2008, 02:05 PM
I might suggest not worrying too much about this with 3.0.2 coming up so soon... or even starting to replace these specs with specs from the beta.

Moknim
10-04-2008, 02:07 PM
Yeah, I already dropped feral charge to try to get used to it. That and I'm not that great at arenas anyway ;)

Fhenrir
10-04-2008, 02:09 PM
Yeah, that occured to me shortly after making the topic.

I'll probably just rehash it come 3.0 and call this one outdated specs or something.

Qabian
10-04-2008, 03:05 PM
Based on Arena Junkies stuff, for Mages this is your

PvP Frost (ImpCS)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=obxVbobZZVVGhobxofqt

PoMPyro (33/28)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0ibRfdMhzbZVtMzfbcRo

Izrail
10-05-2008, 12:37 AM
Warlocks:

SL/SL (standard) - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rVRckoZbxczIiz0es
Firelock (Destruction) - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IV0bZbxZVx0tr0tAuAo

Kyrion
10-06-2008, 12:46 PM
Forgot about one of the best pvp specs for rogues


http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecREgsizVoZEM

^^^^^^^^
Mutilate

Skaadvik
10-07-2008, 12:18 PM
left out shockadin. it's 40/0/21.

Heidenreich
10-07-2008, 12:46 PM
What is a PvP spec? I roflstomp people in my PvE Spec with PvE gear on :( Does that make me gewd?

Yatokth
10-07-2008, 12:48 PM
What is a PvP spec? I roflstomp people in my PvE Spec with PvE gear on :( Does that make me gewd?

No it makes your opponent bad. :P

Chikt
10-07-2008, 12:49 PM
What is a PvP spec? I roflstomp people in my PvE Spec with PvE gear on :( Does that make me gewd?

No, it makes you a Ret Paladin.

Keraph
10-07-2008, 12:49 PM
Not contributing to this right now, since 3.0 will change a lot of desired specs, but I'm looking forward to seeing 51 point specs for Arms. I've got something I like based on my experiences on the PTR, so that'll be nice to discuss

Also, to Dio above me, THIS.

Heidenreich
10-07-2008, 12:51 PM
So 98% of the Horde is bad then!!!! Learn something new everyday. It's honestly why I retired from PvP. I would wear 0 Resil, no PvP trinket and still take down 2 to 4 people before being killed. AND NO!!! I wasn't ganking lowbies....often >.<

Yatokth
10-07-2008, 12:53 PM
So 98% of the Horde is bad then!!!! Learn something new everyday. It's honestly why I retired from PvP. I would wear 0 Resil, no PvP trinket and still take down 2 to 4 people before being killed. AND NO!!! I wasn't ganking lowbies....often >.<

Seriously - Take that statistic and replace Horde with "WoW population".

People suck at PvP.

We should probably stop spamming the spec thread?

Qabian
10-07-2008, 12:54 PM
Actually, I kill people sooo much faster and harder in my PvE spec/gear than when I switch it up. It's just if people decide to kill me back, I splatter all over the place. PvP spec/gear has a lot more defensive and control toys, theoretically allowing you to live longer and do more stuff. But when you already wear plate and can heal yourself, who cares about self-defense.

And discussion of why bother to spec for PvP at all seems valid enough, provided the original post is maintained? Guess it's up to Fhen.

Heidenreich
10-07-2008, 12:57 PM
Shhhhh! I need something to troll while servers are still down :( I'll give serious input in PvP specs in a week!

But yeah, I have to agree 98&#37; of WoW Players are definitely bad. I still stand behind my original statement I said when I signed up for TNG though. RPers can be the best PvPers in the WORLD when given a reason to want to PvP. *kisses up to the Mods*

Muatah
10-07-2008, 12:59 PM
No, it makes you a Ret Paladin.

A Ret Paladin in T6 gear, which is better than 95% of the population of TN.

Maybe someday my Welfare Epic'ed Retnub will run into Heid 1 v 1, and we will see if the hype is true.

Heidenreich
10-07-2008, 01:03 PM
I'm not hard to find! Just look for the Draenei sitting on a dragon in front of Scyer bank. >.> I don't wander out of Shatt much anymore =/

Chikt
10-07-2008, 01:08 PM
So 98&#37; of the Horde is bad then!!!! Learn something new everyday. It's honestly why I retired from PvP. I would wear 0 Resil, no PvP trinket and still take down 2 to 4 people before being killed. AND NO!!! I wasn't ganking lowbies....often >.<

That 2% is the Raven Cross, because I remember killing you quite a bit back in the day. XD

I'm not sure when it's happened, but Ret Paladins got a buff somewhere and they've been tearing people new orifices ever since. I've looked at the specs of the few ret paladins I've run into during PvP as of late and none of them have been PvP specced either.

Yatokth
10-07-2008, 01:10 PM
That 2% is the Raven Cross, because I remember killing you quite a bit back in the day. XD

I'm not sure when it's happened, but Ret Paladins got a buff somewhere and they've been tearing people new orifices ever since. I've looked at the specs of the few ret paladins I've run into during PvP as of late and none of them have been PvP specced either.

Retadin damage is just flat insane on beta/PTR at the moment, and so is their survivability.

They're getting balanced though - devs have said so multiple times. So yeah, it won't be so bad.

Armeth
10-07-2008, 01:53 PM
The SL/SL spec you have for warlocks is a wee bit cookie cutterish. It's also got a lot of major flaws. It will get you to a 1800 rating, and probably higher with a good partner but I had a real problem after 2k rating with it. The current spec I have I like a lot, took some getting used too, but with it I have been able to do a lot and go pretty far.

Either way here it is, same point allocation to the two groups, just different places to put it in.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Twisting+Nether&n=Armeth

Then again it comes down to play style, though later in the ranks I find that even play style goes the wayside to tried and true tactics and number crunching. :-(

Naheal
11-03-2008, 01:51 PM
Heart of the Crusaider Prot build
0/53/8 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000000050053 323315251033012321500300000000000000000000000)

Okhu
11-03-2008, 02:53 PM
Current Spec. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0xcZZebfbhMdbVzAfot

Assassination (8 points)

5/5 Malice
3/3 Puncturing Wounds

Combat (0 points)

None

Subtlety (53 points)

5/5 Relentless Strikes
3/3 Master of Deception
2/2 Opportunity
2/2 Dirty Tricks
3/3 Camouflage
2/2 Elusiveness
3/3 Serrated Blades
2/2 Improved Ambush
2/2 Heightened Senses
1/1 Preparation
2/2 Dirty Deeds
5/5 Deadliness
1/1 Premeditation
3/3 Cheat Death
5/5 Sinister Calling
2/2 Waylay
3/3 Honor Among Thieves
1/1 Shadowstep
5/5 Slaughter from the Shadows
1/1 Shadow Dance

Fhenrir
11-04-2008, 08:48 AM
Oye, I need to get better at this whole unstickying thing.

New official spec thread can be found here (http://wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=13338).